ep. 39 on dating

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ep. 39 | Dating  with Randi Beth Burton

On today’s episode of the Journeywomen podcast, I chatted with Randi Beth Burton about all things dating. Taking me out of my comfort zone! Randi Beth schooled this old married lady on the newest dating fads and I learned a lot! But more importantly, we sought to look at the awkward experience of dating through the lens of the Gospel. We didn’t hit a lot of practicals, because we figured ya’ll have already been inundated with that, and we admittedly don’t have many tips there anyway. But, we can offer you the refreshing truth of the Gospel that is your hope as you navigate all of life, including dating. Listen to what Randi Beth said,

“It’s so much better for me to look at the situation where God has me and be content in that and love that because He is a good God and He has me there for a purpose. And that purpose is is knowing Him and experiencing intimacy with Him.”

Randi Beth is 32, single with 2 awesome roommates and a dog, and she lives in New Braunfels, TX. Randi Beth does Marketing for T Bar M Camps and Retreats. She loves seeing the way God uses camp to impact the lives of the campers who attend, the counselors who serve them all summer, and their families. She has a small group of high school girls that she leads and does life with, which is one of her great blessings in this season of life.

The Gospel meets us wherever we’re at, regardless of our life season. This conversation is actually the third of five episodes we’re putting out on the topic of relationships. So, if you’re new, be sure to hop back to last week’s episode on singleness with Becca Harris and subscribe to the podcast to catch next week’s episode on marriage!

  1. Can you tell us a little about who you are, what you do, and what your life looks like?

  2. Dating can be such an uncertain, awkward thing. While it’s something that Scripture certainly helps us navigate, there aren’t explicit Scriptures that pertain to this cultural transition from singleness into marriage. How can we, as Christian women, firmly establish ourselves in the Gospel as we navigate a situation as uncertain as dating relationships?

  3. I remember insecurities coming up in my dating relationships. How do we date with hope in the Gospel and confidence in who we are in Christ Jesus?

  4. How can the Gospel actually free us up to handle the different opinions that people maintain on the practicalities of dating? (For ex: semantics/terminology, methodology, manner of going about things that aren't clear in Scripture... the gray areas)

  5. What are some things that Scripture does actually mandate when it comes to dating? 

  6. What is the ultimate hope we have as we date?

 

THREE QUESTIONS I ASK EVERY GUEST

  1. What 3 resources would you recommend for someone who is currently dating?
  2. What are 3 of your simple joys?
  3. Who has had the biggest influence on your own journey with Jesus?

 

NOTEWORTHY QUOTES

“I think a lot of times people feel like if you date online it’s like you’re taking this into your own hands, but that is not the heart in it for a lot of people, it’s become so normal. I heard a statistic the other day that 1 in 3 relationships these days begins online!”

“Have you heard the saying, ‘God doesn’t move parked cars?’ I have the mentality that I don’t want to just sit and wait for God to bring me someone. I do trust Him in this process, but I think there’s great value in going out on dates and learning more about yourself through that process, what you’re looking for in someone else and how to articulate the things that are important to you and presenting yourself in that way and manner.”

“When I think about my purpose in life, sometimes I can make dating my purpose, and not just dating, but marriage.”

“I know that marriage is this covenant picture we have on earth of our relationship with God and how Christ loves the Church, and so I have a great desire to have that, and eventually I desire to raise children to know the Lord too. But that’s not my purpose.”

“If we talk about the big picture of the gospel there’s 3 questions every man and woman must ask in life, regardless of if you’re a Christian or not, these are just human questions. Where did we come from and who are we, what has gone wrong with the world, and what can we do to fix it? Everyone has their own answer to these questions...people of all worldviews agree that the world is not as it should be, we just disagree with what that problem is. With Christianity, the gospel answers these questions for us. We know and acknowledge that we were created by God in His image, His image bearers, and even before the fall, before sin, He said to go out into the world, multiply, and subdue it. That’s what He tells us to do even before the fall, but then we have sin. That’s what has gone wrong with the world, Genesis 3 happened and sin is the problem. What can we do to fix it? God did that for us. We’re saved by a God who died for us in order to restore us. So, Jesus changed everything and He gave us a purpose with 2 simple words, ‘Follow Me’, and that changed everything. When I became a Christian that’s what I’m saying I’ll do...follow Him.”

“Going back to dating, we kind of think of our relationship with God as a transactional relationship, like ‘Lord I’ll do this and in return You’re going to bless me in this way’, and the natural order of life that happens most often is (childhood, high school, college or a job, marriage, children, repeat)...I end up getting upset with God because I feel like He didn’t uphold His end of the contract. Look at all this I’ve done! Why have you not given me this at this time? But the reality is if you do look at it as a contract, when I was becoming a Christian God gave me a piece of paper that was blank and said ‘Follow Me’ and I signed that regardless of what life looks like.”

“...trust the Lord with His timing and the way He is growing you as a person.”

“I wouldn’t trade the times when I’ve experienced intimacy with the Lord and the growing that comes from that for anything.”

“It’s so much better for me to look at the situation where He has me and be content in that and love that, because He is a good God and He has us there for a purpose, which is knowing Him and intimacy with Him.” 

“I think about some of the insecurities that can come up in dating…’are my standards too high?’...‘Am I not good enough?’...And then it gets deeper, ‘am I not hearing God correctly?’ I can be at a wedding sitting in the pew and sometimes I get this twinge of ‘Why hasn’t God done that for me?’ and at its root there’s sin. That’s envy or distrust and I have a choice then what to do with that thought. I can let it rob me of my joy in the moment or I can turn it into a prayer expressing my desire, clinging to trust in God’s leading and plan in my life.”

“There’s this great quote by C.S. Lewis in Mere Christianity-- ‘I’m sure that God keeps no one waiting unless He sees that it is good for him to wait.’ If C.S. Lewis were alive I would have to ask his forgiveness because he’s not talking about dating in this quote (I think he’s talking about church denominations!) but I like it because he paints this picture of a man in a hallway, and the thing the man is seeking is behind a door, yet God has him in the hallway waiting. So he wants to enter through the door but this is where God has him. And he says, ‘When you do enter your room you will find that the long wait has done you some kind of good which you would not have had otherwise. But you must regard it as waiting, not as camping. You must keep on praying for light, and above all you must be asking which door is the true one, not which pleases you best by its paint and paneling.’”  

“I’m praying for light and asking the Lord which door is the true one: is it this man or that man, is it singleness? I want the true one and I want to choose joy in the midst of me being in the hallway.”

“God gave His people the law, this standard He wanted His people to abide by, and it was laborious...it was a standard no man could achieve. God, knowing this, even set about standards in which you could purify yourself so that you could commune with God because He so desires to ‘tabernacle’ with us, to dwell with us, and so there were standards and sacrifices put in place so that we could be purified. With His Son, in Jesus’ life death and resurrection, He made it possible for us to know Him without the need for sacrifice. So, going back to the law, Jesus helped clarify some of these things for us. He said, ‘You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart.’ (Matthew 5:27-28) Jesus came to fulfill the law, so it’s not hopeless for us that we can’t achieve these standards--He paid that penalty and now we’re free from sin--but what we do see is that Jesus is about the intent of the heart.”

“In any grey area or semantic of dating, the intent of your heart is what is important.”

“Scripture says the heart is deceitful, so there are two really good tests or thermometers for this. The first is God’s Word. God doesn’t speak to everything in the Bible, there are things that aren’t clear, but knowing scripture and knowing the heart of the Father, which is revealed in His Word, can provide illumination to these grey areas. ‘Your Word is a lamp unto my feet and a light unto my path.’ I like to think about grey areas that way. I don’t search scripture to specifically answer whatever that question is because I might not find it, but what I can do is put scripture in my heart and ask myself what this says about God and how He designed things and created them to be.”

“I don’t think dating is just between you and the other person...you should let people in on that. You need people to hold you accountable.”

“If you find yourself in a dating relationship and you’re worried about what your friends might think, that’s a red flag.”

“Scripture is very clear about fleeing from sexual immorality...that’s a pretty big piece to put over your dating relationship. Our culture perpetuates that, it’s totally normal and even celebrated to not suppress your sexual desires, and that is everywhere that we look.” 

“I have walked with many women who have made mistakes in this area or tricked themselves in the moment to say this is good for me and regretted it afterward, so I understand the weight of that and the temptation to succumb to that, and God is merciful even in those times. He is faithful and there is forgiveness and healing in that and redemption on the other end of that.”

“We should be speaking into this, there are so many ministries who do this well and speak into the truth of abstaining from sex until marriage, that’s what God designed it for, and that is very clear in scripture. That’s not a grey area and Jesus took that back to the heart of the issue.”

“Self control is a fruit of the Spirit...When you realize it is, the only way that can be evident in my life is when I am abiding with God, and it always goes back to the heart issue."

“One of the hardest parts of walking with the Lord is confession, and yet it’s so freeing and necessary in our relationship with the Lord and our state of brokenness. You have to be honest. We talked about our heart being deceitful, so if it’s an issue of the heart, I have to be honest before the Lord in confessing that and there’s such peace and freedom on the other end of confession because forgiveness is there and it modifies your behavior. Not only with the Lord, but confessing with people. God asks us to confess our sins to one another, and that goes back to letting people in on your dating relationship as well, even if it’s one trusted friend that you say ‘you have permission to ask me the hard questions about my relationship.’”

“You have to communicate (to others) where your heart is in the midst of dating.”  

“Solomon says in Ecclesiastes that God set eternity in the heart of man, so that’s what our heart really desires. I love the verse ‘delight yourself in the Lord and He will give you the desires of your heart’ (Psalm 37:4)...but that verse that can often be misquoted goes back to that prosperity thought that ‘if I delight in God He’ll give me what I want’. But really it’s that our hopes align with His...I love thinking about that in light of what Solomon said about eternity being in the heart of man, that’s truly what my heart desires and I was created for intimacy with the Lord, and I was created to desire that relationship.”

“As Christians, we’re given a new self and a new heart, and we thirst for that relationship (with God). But it’s like we ask for a candy bar when we really need fruit or a coke when we need water, and we do that with dating. But if we can experience intimacy with the Father through abiding with Him (He’s the vine, we’re the branches--John 15), then our dating relationship is much healthier because we’re not seeking to satisfy that longing with another person because it’s satisfied by God, as it should be.”

 

RANDI BETH'S RESOURCES

Scripture first and foremost

The Mingling of Souls by Matt Chandler

Love Song: A Study in the Song of Solomon by Tommy Nelson

How Now Shall We Live by Charles Colson

 

RANDI BETH’S SIMPLE JOYS

"Sit Around Time"

Quoting Movies

Nephews and Niece

 

OTHER Resources

Toward a Biblical Approach to Dating by TGC


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ep. 38 on singleness

Becca Harris

ep. 38 | Singleness  with Becca Harris

In lieu of the upcoming holiday, I decided to bring one of the coolest single ladies I know to chat about singleness. Happy Valentines Day, single ladies! Today’s guest, Becca Harris, is 36, single, loves Jesus, and is mama to two young men that she adopted out of foster care who are now 20 and 17 years old. Becca’s boys moved in when they were 14 and 11. They were 16 and 13 when she adopted them. Becca and I talked about everything from Jesus’ life as a single man to what it looks like to submit our desires to the Lord without shutting the doors on our dreams.  Even if you’re not single, you’ll want to stick around to learn how we can love our single friends better, but beyond that, Becca’s story is an incredible one to hear in general, regardless of your current season. I’m certain it will stir your affections for Jesus and inspire you to walk in obedience to whatever He asks of you. 

I walked away from this conversation inspired to happily follow Jesus in whatever it is that He sets before me. I hope you find Becca’s obedience to Christ just as inspiring as I do! This conversation is actually the second of five episodes we’re putting out on the topic of relationships. If you’re new, be sure to hop back to last week’s episode with Kim Vollendorf on Intimacy with God and subscribe to the podcast to catch next week’s episode on dating! To continue discussing relationships in light of the Gospel throughout the week, find us on Instagram, Facebook, or Twitter! Thanks so much for allowing us to journey alongside you! Have a great week! We can’t wait to see you here, next Monday.

  1. Can you tell us a little about who you are, what you do, and what your life looks like?

  2. We often look at every aspect of Jesus' life, experiences, and character, but fail to consider the reality that Jesus himself was SINGLE! What can we learn about singleness by looking at the model he lived out for us?

  3. Have you always felt accepting of singleness? Do you desire to be married? How can a single woman allow herself to want to be married while submitting this desire to the Lord? How can she fight for contentment in singleness without shutting the door on her dreams?

  4. What might it look like to steward a life of singleness well? We often fixate on the challenges of singleness, but what are the perks/joys of being single? What can you do as a single person that married people cannot do or might find more challenging?

  5. What does intimacy look like for you in your community? How do you feel known and how do people walk alongside you?

  6. How do you gracefully navigate relinquishing the position of "best friend" when your closest friends are getting married and engaged?

  7. As parents, how can we communicate about the future to our kids without giving them the impression that being married or having a family of their own is ultimate/expected?

  8. For the engaged and married ladies, how can we love, support, and encourage our friends that are single? What are the practical needs of singles?

  9. On the flip side, how can a single person love married people well? How can singles use their flexibility to bless other women who are married?

  10. What are some of the WORST things someone could say to a single person? How can singles graciously respond to unhelpful encouragement like, "You'll find someone once you're content with your life as it is and where God has put you," etc?

 

THREE QUESTIONS I ASK EVERY GUEST

  1. What 3 resources would you recommend for someone who is single or who wants to serve/love their single friends well?
  2. What are 3 of your simple joys?
  3. Who has had the biggest influence on your own journey with Jesus?

 

NOTEWORTHY QUOTES

“Jesus was single. Paul was single...Jesus is our Lord, and when we look at Paul’s life and ministry, I don’t think we can say that either of them were lacking. If Jesus was lacking then our Savior is not sufficient. Paul was an elder in churches, starting churches, discipling people and sharing the gospel. I don’t think anyone there would have said he wasn’t qualified to do certain aspects of ministry.” 

“Jesus says in John 10:10 ‘I have come that they might have life and have it abundantly.’ He didn’t add an addendum there, that they’ll have it abundantly when they get married and have their 2.5 kids and are able to retire in the Bahamas. No, He says they will have life abundantly in Me.”

“Psalm 16:11, ‘You make known to me the path of life; in Your presence there is fullness of joy; at Your right hand are pleasures evermore.’ David is saying there that the joy is in God, not in your circumstances.”

“With most other things in life when we counsel people we tell them to see their job, house, spouse, etc. as gifts God has given you, but that’s not where you find abundant life. Often, for whatever reason, with marriage or singleness we tend to believe that lie more than anywhere else.”

“We really do have a High Priest who sympathizes with us and understands. When we say we feel alone He’s not saying, ‘Get it together’, He’s saying ‘Hey, I know. I felt that too, I remember looking at Peter when he said he didn’t know Me’...He was human too, I’m sure He had the same desire for intimacy that we all do.” 

“He’s a good God who, in His infinite wisdom, is providing and giving me the best gifts that I need and I can trust Him.”

“As a single parent I find myself at times almost shaking my fist at the Lord and saying ‘if you’d just bring a husband...’ not just for myself but for my boys, for them to have a man in their lives, and I’ve so kindly felt the Lord saying, ‘Hey Becca, if that’s what you needed and if that’s what they needed, I would provide it. I don’t withhold good things. I don’t handicap you to make your struggle worse. Everything I do has a purpose, so entrust your soul to Me. Trust Me.”

“For a long time I wrestled with my place. Everyone in marriage gets to display God’s covenantal love...what do I display? I felt like I took a backseat and was missing out on something...I remember the Lord teaching me that singleness is a place for me to display His sufficiency.” 

“Marriage isn’t the end all. Christ is the end all...Christ is my sufficiency.”

“Are you single? Then you are, today, called to singleness. You have to live today as unto the Lord, and where He has you, and not spend it in a state where you’re always longing for something. It’s okay to have that desire, you just have to lay that at the Lord’s feet.” 

“I’ve had friends who’ve had days when they just don’t want to be married because life is hard. We would never counsel them to say ‘well, if you don’t want to be married then don’t be married today’. But with singleness we say if you don’t want to be single then God must not be calling you to singleness. You can’t flip that way, you have to believe this is where God has us and this is how we will live today and trust Him.”

“Don’t shut off the desire to be married. Ask. Pray. But hold it with an open hand, knowing God is still good even if He doesn’t give it to you or doesn’t give it how you wanted it.” 

“Don’t fixate on (getting married) so much that you can’t move forward with what He’s given you to do now.” 

“If you’re single you have the opportunity to serve the church in a big way.”

“It takes a village to raise kids, and what an opportunity for people who don’t have kids, who do have the flexibility in their schedule, to step in and help, whether that’s serving the church or families.”

“There was a lie I was believing that because my friends were married I couldn’t be as close to them, and God’s shown me over time that’s not true. They are human beings too, and there’s a way God has designed community to be close and intimate even when not in a marriage. The lie we believe sometimes is that as a married person they won’t understand my struggle as a single person or vice versa...but we can still pray for each other, speak the gospel into one another, and show up in one another’s lives.” 

“It’s not wrong to teach your kids how to be a good spouse, how to care for one another, what marriage means, those things are all important. We just can’t paint marriage as the ultimate goal.”

“For me, everything I heard about biblical womanhood centered around marriage and motherhood. As I’ve gotten older I’ve realized it has to be more than just being married and being a mom. As I’ve watched some of my friends who are married but struggle to have kids, they’re not any less of a woman because they can’t conceive and have kids. I think we have to be careful how we paint what biblical manhood and womanhood is.”

“You want to paint that the most important thing in life is to love God and love people. For most of our kids they are probably going to get married, but I don’t want to paint that as the promise or expectation somehow where they feel they came up short if they don’t.”  

“As a parent, I don’t give my kids good gifts when they deserve them, they don’t get Christmas because they deserve Christmas, I just love to bless them and love to give them what’s good. It’s the same way with God. He’s not saying, ‘When you deserve a husband and get it together and trust me enough then I’ll give you one.’”

 

BECCA'S RESOURCES

 

When People Are Big and God Is Small by Edward T. Welch

Not Yet Married by Marshall Segal (audiobook)

A Praying Life by Paul Miller

 

 

BECCA’S SIMPLE JOYS

Kids

Being active and being outside

Being with friends over a good meal and games


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ep. 37 on intimacy with God

Kim Vollendorf

ep. 37 | Intimacy with God with Kim Vollendorf

On this episode of the Journeywomen podcast, I chatted with Kim Vollendorf about intimacy with God. This is the first of five episodes that we’re releasing on the topic of relationships, just in time for February, the all-too-anticipated month of love, which, can we all just be honest with ourselves and admit that we long to experience?

Standing at six-foot-one, Kim Vollendorf is literally a big sis to younger women. For over thirty years, she has served with the campus ministry, Student Mobilization. She is a wife and mom now, but she is well acquainted with being single. She enjoys a nice cup of tea, a good read, a hearty laugh, and a well-organized closet. She and her husband, Sean, have three teenage sons. In her recent book Loving Your Husband Before You Even Have One she shares the lessons she learned as a single woman which have really paid off in marriage.

Today Kim and I discussed the foundation for true, selfless love, which is intimacy with God. Intimacy, or into-me-you-see, is a thread that weaves its way through each of the conversations we’re releasing on the topic of relationships, but it’s worth noting that this thread existed before humanity ever came into being, as God Himself experienced intimacy with the persons of the Trinity: God the Father, God the Son, and God the Spirit. The Trinity eternally existed in relationship. Meaning, God didn’t create humanity because He was lonely or in need because there is rich fellowship within the members of the Trinity. He made us in His image and after His likeness and because of that, we were created to be in intimate relationships too, just like Him. That’s why He said, “It is not good that man should be alone.”

So God created Eve, a helpmate for Adam, someone like him, someone with whom Adam would experience knowing and being known. But not long after Adam and Eve were created, something terrible happened to this divine image when they disobeyed God’s command not to eat of the fruit of the forbidden tree. When they took and ate of the tree, the image of God in humans was twisted and damaged. We are still his image-bearers, but that image has been perverted throughout generations. We’re all longing for the image to be restored to its original beauty, but God intends to go beyond even what Adam and Eve experienced in the garden by conforming us into the image of Christ as we experience intimacy with Him.

There is nothing casual about the way in which God knows us. Scripture says that He has searched and known us, He knows when we sit and when we rise, He discerns our thoughts from afar. He searches out our path and our lying down; He is acquainted with all our ways. Even before a word is on our tongues He knows it. He knows all things, including absolutely everything about us. The reason He searches and knows us is because He loves us. So much so, that He sent His Son down to earth to die so that we could enter into relationship with Him, by the power of His Spirit, and once again experience intimacy with Him.

The cry of the human heart is to belong, to be loved, and to experience the ultimate intimacy that can only be found in relationship with God. By the power of the Spirit, our identification, our oneness, and our intimacy with Jesus conforms us into His image, which deepens and enriches our human relationships too! If we know that we’re loved by the Sovereign God, it frees us up to be open and intimate in our personal relationships as well. Today Kim and I talk about how we enter into relationship with God by the power of His Spirit, through relationship with His Son, and how knowing who God is actually cultivates intimacy with Him and with others. This is a huge topic and by no means is this conversation exhaustive, but we hope it will offer some practical tools to help you posture yourself towards intimacy with God.

I am inspired by Kim’s devotion to really knowing God through His Word. On a personal level, you may not go about this by creating a handy alphabet like Kim did, but I want to encourage you to invest time getting to know God through His Word, whatever that looks like for you. Last week’s episode, Biblical Literacy for Women with Kristin Schmucker, is another great resource for learning how to do that! 

  1. Tell us a little about who you are and what you do?

  2. Before we get any further, do you have a basic definition for intimacy so that we’re all on the same page? What is intimacy?

  3. Do we all desire intimacy? Where do we see our longing for it most prevalently? What does this longing point us towards?

  4. How has God already gone before us in building the bridge for intimacy? How does the Gospel enable us to grow in intimacy with Jesus and with others?

  5. Why is intimacy important, particularly with Jesus? How about with others, like our spouse or our friends?

  6. Practically speaking, how can we build intimacy with God? How can we build intimacy within our relationships?

  7. What are some things we might see in ourselves if we aren’t experiencing intimacy with Jesus? What’s the downfall in neglecting our relationship with him? What about with other people?

  8. Where do we get these inaccurate thoughts about God?

  9. How do you build accurate thoughts about God?

  10. If you had to offer a goal or purpose for building intimate relationships with God and with others, what would it be? What’s the goal of intimate relationships?

 

THREE QUESTIONS I ASK EVERY GUEST

  1. What 3 resources would you recommend for someone who desires to grow in this area?
  2. What are 3 of your simple joys?
  3. Who has had the biggest influence on your own journey with Jesus?

 

NOTEWORTHY QUOTES

“Usually when anyone hears the word ‘intimacy’ our first thought is sex...but intimacy is a lot more than that, it’s much deeper. It’s actually about knowing and being known in a special way.”

“How can a woman experience intimacy with God, whom she can neither see nor touch, to a depth that exceeds what she can experience with a man?...Intimacy is much more than the physical acts we share with someone. I think there’s a part of us that wants to share our mind, body, and soul with someone and we just really crave that deep connection.”

“I think people run toward relationships (with other humans) looking to find that intimacy. When they don’t find that intimacy they’re looking for, they think there’s a better guy out there that will fill that void.”

“I really think that it’s not a search for a him, it’s a search for Him. I think God has placed within us a desire for oneness and intimacy so that it would ultimately push us toward Him. There’s no person that can really meet that need to be known like He can.”

“We know from the Scriptures that God wants a relationship with us. He has gone to great extent and great sacrifice to clear the way for us to be forgiven of our sin, because sin is what breaks intimacy, even with people and with Him, He has gone to great extent to clear the way for us so that we can have a relationship with Him. That’s the beauty of the Gospel is that He provides this relationship that we don’t really deserve." 

“The Scriptures also tell us in Psalm 139 how well God knows us. He was there while we were being formed in our mother’s womb, He knows our thoughts even before we speak them. He numbered our days. He knows us better than anyone else. Because of what Christ has done for us we can get to know Him as well. Because again, the Scriptures tell us that in John 1 that Jesus came to make God known to us. As we get to know Jesus, we get to see that He is the exact representation of God’s nature (Hebrews). And we have an opportunity to get to know the One who made us who knows us so deeply. That’s a beautiful intimacy that you’re not going to experience with a person.”

“Sometimes we think intimacy is going to be a feeling, but feelings are driven by our thoughts. So, our thoughts influence our feelings, which influences our actions. So it all goes back to what we think about. It’s really important for us, if we want to be intimate with God, that we have an accurate view of who He is. That’s absolutely critical.”

“As we sit through a sermon or do bible study or have our quiet time one of the questions I’m always asking is, ‘What is true about God from this passage?’ It’s amazing what pops off the page when you’re intentionally going in asking that question.”

Remembering the ABCs about God… “God is Able to do anything, He is Big and He Cares for you. He Destroyed death, He’s Eternal, He’s Faithful, He’s Good. He’s Holy, He’s the Great I AM. He’s Just, Kind, Loving, and Merciful. He’s Near to me. He’s my One and only, my Peace, my Protector, my Provider. He’s my shepherd who leads my by Quiet waters. He’s my Refuge, my Savior, and He tells me the Truth. He’s Unseen, but Vengeance will be His and so will Victory. He is Without equal. He has X-ray vision, He sees it all. He knows whY, and He never sleeps.”

“It doesn’t take much for me to forget who God is, but if I can remember my “ABC’s”, I get realigned once again.”

“I’m needy, and if I don’t have a go-to I’ll just go to a dark and dreary place in my mind. I feel like our enemy’s main attack is in our minds, he starts there and plants thoughts, ‘God’s not really good; God’s cheating you’ and we have to be able to fight that...in order to stay sane I have to remind myself continually of who Jesus is.” 

Remembering the ABCs about YOUR identity… “I can Approach Him in confidence. I am Blameless. He takes Care of me. I am Dead to sin and have been given Eternal life. I’m Free from accusation. I have access to Grace. I have Hope. I am In His hand and safe. I am Justified, Known, Loved, and Made for a reason. He has Numbered my days. I am an Overcomer. I have Peace with God. He has Qualified me for an inheritance. He Rewards me. He Saved me and Shields me. He Thinks of me. I am Untouchable. My labor is not in Vain. I’m His Workmanship. I have Access to God (X). I have been forgiven of mY sins. I am a citiZen of heaven.”  

“Even if you have one go to favorite verse to remind yourself and train your brain on the truths of who you are and who God is, those thoughts will feed your feelings and you are going to feel closer to God when those truths sink in.”

“The women who invested in me early on really emphasized being authentic before God and not faking it. I just feel the freedom to be very honest about my feelings and I see that in the Psalms. David was very honest, angry, frustrated, disappointed, joyful and excited, so I feel the freedom to be those things with God too. I don’t put on this spiritual mask to talk to God...I’m very honest.”

“It’s the people who know you and who’ve seen you at your worst but still love you that you’re drawn to, and it’s the same way with God! Despite this ongoing struggle or ugliness in heart or sin, He’s still pursuing a relationship with you. And that changes you.” 

“A lot of us drift away from God when we feel like He doesn’t like us or is disappointed with us, but His favor surrounds us like a shield as believers. We can always go to Him.”  

"When you’re experiencing intimacy with God it’s a relationship that you enjoy.”

"If we know God well, we’ll learn to love Him. If we love Him, it’s easier to trust Him. If we trust Him, we’re more willing to obey Him, and if we obey Him we’ll experience His best.”

 

KIM'S RESOURCES

Daily time in God’s Word

Kim’s ABC Bookmark

Sex and the Single Girl by Dr. Juli Slattery (resources on intimacy from biblical perspective)

Kim's Book: Loving Your Husband Before You Even Have One

 

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Early morning Earl Grey tea and bible reading

Putting on a pair of jeans that are long enough for me (American Eagle!)

A well organized drawer


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ep. 36 on biblical literacy for women

Kristin Schmucker

ep. 36 | Biblical Literacy for Women with Kristin Schmucker

On today’s episode of the Journeywomen podcast, I chatted with Kristin Schmucker about one of my absolute favorite topics (which if you’ve been around for longer than 2 seconds you can probably already guess is…) Biblical literacy. We discussed everything from why we, as women, need the Bible, to what it might look like to gracefully prioritize this spiritual discipline from the Gospel. As a wife and a mama to three precious girls and one adorable little boy, Kristin knows the challenges that come with demanding life seasons. Through it all, Kristin’s passion for equipping and encouraging women to know and love God's Word remains the same, because she knows from experience that studying Scripture changes lives. The desire of her heart is to help women see who God is and that the truth of His Word actually changes everything. I hope this episode leaves you all inspired and challenged to pick up your Bible, whether you’re just starting out or you’ve been studying it for years.

After listening to this episode, you will absolutely walk away with some helpful tools for your pursuit of Biblical literacy, but even more than that, I pray you will strive for Biblical literacy from a place of rest, believing that if you are in Christ, nothing can make you more loved than you are already are in Him. Not even the pursuit of something as excellent as Biblical literacy will make any of us more presentable to God. We are saved by works, but it is Christ’s works! Resting in what Christ has done for us brings a deep, soulful kind of rest that enables us to strive towards godliness as we study God’s Word.

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  1. Can you tell us a little about who you are, what you do, and what you’re passionate about

  2. What is Biblical literacy?

  3. Why is it important? Why might it be important for women, specifically? What’s the aim/goal?

  4. How can we grow in biblical literacy?

  5. Does this look different based on our season of life? What might it look like in more demanding seasons, like for those of us that have little people or who are working full time

  6. What encouragement do you have for those of us who are prone to feel shame or wallow in guilt when we fail to prioritize studying the Word?

  7. How can we gracefully prioritize this spiritual discipline from the Gospel?

  8. What are some important practical elements of Bible Study?

  9. What should we beware of in ourselves when we approach the Word of God with the goal of growing in Biblical literacy? What cautions might you have for those hoping to

  10. If we haven’t ever studied God’s Word, where should we begin? If we have studied, what would you encourage us to continue?

 

THREE QUESTIONS I ASK EVERY GUEST

  1. What 3 resources would you recommend for someone who desires to grow in Biblical literacy?
  2. What are 3 of your simple joys?
  3. Who has had the biggest influence on your own journey with Jesus?

 

NOTEWORTHY QUOTES

“Being in God’s Word is crucial because this is how we know who God is. The aim and the goal is continually to know Scripture more so that we can know God more. As we know God more, and immerse ourselves in His Word we are transformed into His image through the process of sanctification. It’s so important because Scripture is living and active! It is truly life-changing.”

“God’s Word is the comfort and the truth and the peace that will get us through anything. His Word is what gets us through.” 

“We have all faced hard days and hard times. And yet when we come to God’s Word, we know that He is faithful. We need to be in Scripture so that we can preach that truth to ourselves because there will be days when it doesn’t feel true and that’s when we need an understanding of God’s Word so that we can preach it to our hearts over and over again.”  

“Sometimes as women we buy into the lie that being a wife and a mother is the highest calling that a woman could have. Being a wife and a mother is a wonderful thing, but being a wife and a mother is not my highest calling. My highest calling is to be a disciple. My highest calling and the definition of success is obedience and surrender to God. Being a disciple impacts every area of my life. Being a disciple should impact the kind of wife and mother I am, and the same is true for those in other seasons or calling of life, whether in singleness, being a working mom, or a single mom. Being a disciple impacts all of those things. Biblical literacy is important for women because we are disciples and we need to know who God is. It’s also important because sometimes as women we’re tempted to be guided by our emotions. And instead, we need to be guided by truth because I don’t know about you, but my emotions don’t always tell the truth, but God’s Word is truth and we can always come back to that.”

 “There is nothing that’s been more transformational to my knowledge of God’s Word than going through the entire Bible.”  

“Reading the whole Bible shows us God’s redemptive plan from before the foundations of the world and really shows us where we fit into the story of Scripture. On a practical level, it will encourage our hearts to see God’s faithfulness to His people for generations and remind us that He will be faithful to us and that compels us to trust Him.”

“Sometimes we look at the different types of Bible study and kind of rank them and think that one is more important than the other. We look at this exposure to Scripture and think that it’s not as important as Inductive Bible study. But both of them are so important. There’s such an important part of being grounded in Biblical Literacy. That overview reading of the entire Bible really transforms our in depth study as well as we’re able to start making connections for ourselves and seeing how the whole story fits together.” 

“There is no one-size-fits-all magic recipe when it comes to growing in God’s Word.”

“Remember to give yourself some grace in this season. God has put you in the season you’re in. He isn’t caught off guard if you are exhausted from being up five times at night with a baby. Just do what you can. This may mean that you’re just reading Scripture and then maybe coming back at another time to dig a little deeper. Or maybe this is just the time for you to read through the entire Bible and then jump back into a more in-depth study when you’re able to. Utilize nap times. Don’t think that your quiet time has to be quiet! A lot of times, it’s just not. On the flip side, we also have to be willing to take a long, hard look at ourselves and give grace when we’re in those difficult seasons where it’s just a really trying season, and also be able to recognize when we really need to shift our priorities and prioritize God’s Word.”

“You may feel like you cannot make time for God’s Word, but I think the truth is that you cannot afford not to make time for God’s Word in some capacity. That being said, it will look different in different seasons. However we can spend time in Scripture, it is going to bear fruit in our lives.”

“Eat until you’re full when it comes to Bible study. Sometimes it’s just one verse and that is enough to ground your heart in the Gospel and set you on the right trajectory for your day… sometimes you just go off of that until you have time to come back and get some more.”

“Our weakness points us to the Gospel. The whole point of the Gospel is that we are weak and that’s why we need Christ. If we could have lived the Christian life on our own, Jesus would not have needed to come. The beauty of the Gospel and the beauty of seeing our weakness is that it reminds us how much we need him. We need to keep the Gospel always in front of us and realize that our weakness always points us back to Him.” 

“When we look to the entire Canon of Scripture we can see that the Gospel is God’s plan from the beginning. What an encouragement for us! Our God is not caught off guard. If He is not caught off guard in this beautiful, huge story of Scripture that takes so many twists and turns, He is certainly not caught off guard by our daily lives. Looking for Jesus in every portion of Scripture and seeing how the Gospel is played out--seeing the theme of Creation, Fall, Redemption, and Restoration picture--will ground us in the Gospel and help us to realize that the Gospel is the big picture and the Word of God is the Gospel! Every page is pointing to the message of the Gospel!”

“We should pray before Bible study! We often come to Bible study and we totally forget to pray. We can pray for God to open our hearts, to give us understanding, to love His Word, and that He will transform us through the power of His Word.”

“If we think ‘Well, I’m not a pastor so I don’t need to know the Bible like my pastor does,’ but we need to get out of that mentality because as I mentioned earlier, we are disciples. It doesn’t matter what our season of life is or what our vocation is, we need to know God’s Word so that we can have it for ourselves and give it out to others.”

“This is a journey. It’s not something that happens overnight. We can’t expect to have this great, Biblical understanding and Biblical knowledge just a few days into our journey. It’s something that takes years and years. We could view that as a negative that we’re not there yet, or we could look at it and say, ‘Hey, I am now so much further than I used to be, and where will God have me 30 years from now?’ When we have studied God’s Word our entire life, what a joy it will be to look back and see what God has taught us over the years. It’s a journey and we just need to keep pressing in and doing these small little things to get us to our destination.”

“We need to be aware of the checklist mentality. We just want to cross it off our to-do list. But instead of having that mentality, we need to strive for a relationship mentality. We’re in a relationship! It’s not just something to cross off our to-do list. We also need to be careful of an academic mentality! We need to be cautious if we’re viewing our time in God’s Word as simply academic. We aren’t studying God’s Word to win a game of Bible trivia. We are studying God’s Word to know who He is and to be transformed into His likeness.” 

“Beware of just taking your favorite Bible study teacher’s take on a passage and adopting it without digging into Scripture for ourselves. We can be discerning with what teachers and pastors we are listening to. Be aware of what we’re soaking ourselves in. By all means, listen to sermons and consult commentaries, but first get into Scripture yourself and begin developing your understanding of God’s Word so that you have the discernment to be able to sift through the huge multitude of resources that are out there today.”

 

KRISTIN'S RESOURCES

Get plugged into a solid, Gospel-centered church and study the Word in community

Daily Grace Company on Facebook

Blue Letter Bible App

The Daily Grace Company

 

KRISTIN’S SIMPLE JOY’S

Sunday afternoons

Volcano candles from Anthro

Theological conversations

 

OTHER RESOURCES

Bible Reading Plan App

ESV Reading Plans

Relating to our Emotions with Amy Waters | Ep. 06

Loving God's Word with Gretchen Saffles | Ep. 26

The Big Story of the Bible with Caroline Cobb | Ep. 23

Bible Study with Amy Ward | Ep. 04

Journeywomen Bible Study Resources

How to Study the Bible Inductively

Discovering Jesus in the Old Testament by Nancy Guthrie


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ep. 35 on what to do with unmet expectations

Maggie Combs

ep. 35 | What to Do with Unmet Expectations with Maggie Combs

On today’s episode of the Journeywomen podcast, I chatted with Maggie Combs about the deep desires of our hearts that cause real grief when they remain unfulfilled. Maggie is the author of UnsuperMommy and mama to her three busy boys: Isaac, Zander, and Judah. She blames their unending energy and solid build completely on her tall, active husband, Wes. Maggie and I talked about everything from why God allows some of our desires to go unmet to where the Gospel meets us in those unmet expectations. She said,

“Only in nearness to God will we have all of our desire fulfilled. I like to call this holy discontent. This means that the purpose of this unmet desire is to constantly remind you that only God will satisfy the unending desire of your heart. Elizabeth Elliot says, ‘Heaven is not here, it’s there. If we were given all that we wanted here our hearts would settle for this world and not the next.’ So this holy discontentment is a kindness to keep us longing for more of God.”  

Maggie literally had me saying, “Amen,” throughout the podcast which thankfully, doesn’t happen often, but I know you guys will be fist pumping with me as she gracefully and powerfully brings the truth on this episode. I hope ya’ll enjoy it as much as I did!

  1. Tell us about who you are and what you do.

  2. At this point in the year, a lot of us are already experiencing unmet expectations, but I want to talk about the deeper desires of the heart that cause real grief when they aren't fulfilled. Have you ever experienced this? If so, what did that look like for you?

  3. Can you give us examples of some big desires that we might unknowingly maintain?

  4. I think when people hear the word "expectations" they automatically think that expectations are negative. Are desires like these bad, good, or could they be neutral?

  5. We both know and believe that God is Sovereign over all things. Since this is the case, why do you think God allows some of our desires to go unmet?

  6. What's a normal response when our expectations go unfulfilled? What kind of response did you have, personally?

  7. When might we be able to detect that our desires are setting themselves up against our desire for God?

  8. If this is the case, what would you suggest? What response does Scripture call us to when we become aware of this?

  9. Where does the Gospel meet us in our unmet expectations?

  10. How can we walk forward in the grace of the Gospel without wallowing in sadness or shame?

  11. How can we minister to our sisters who are struggling with grieving over unmet desires?

 

THREE QUESTIONS I ASK EVERY GUEST

  1.  What 3 resources would you recommend for someone wanting to grow in this area?
     
  2. What are 3 of your simple joys?
     
  3. Who has had the biggest influence on your own journey with Jesus?

 

NOTEWORTHY QUOTES

“These desires are good in their right place. There’s nothing wrong with wanting to have children. The Bible tells us to desire a happy marriage and to work towards that. But we have to understand that first, God made us to be desirers. He made us to desire the best thing for our lives. The best thing for our lives is God. So the problem happens when these other good desires that are good in and of themselves, start to take God’s place in our life.”

“I like to picture Jesus seated on the throne of my heart. The good desires are at the bottom, submitted to His Sovereign goodness. But any time that I stop looking at Him, focusing on Him, and keeping Him the number one in my life, and look down at all of those good desires and start letting my mind spend all this time dwelling on how much I want those good things, He is no longer on the throne of my life and those good desires just start crawling their way up onto the throne.”

“Paul David Tripp says that, ‘A desire for a good thing becomes a bad thing when it becomes the ruling thing.’” 

“Devastation is always a tip-off for idolatry.” - Brad Bigney  

“When Jesus is on our throne, the fruit of the Spirit gives us love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. But when those good desires get on the throne we get anger, fear, malice, short-temperedness, harshness, and all of those big emotions that are sure signs that Jesus is no longer the focus of our lives.” 

“We need to pull in some Scripture here and really talk about how God talks about desire. Psalm 145 says, “You open your hand; you satisfy the desire of every living thing. The Lord is righteous in all his ways and kind in all his works. The Lord is near to all who call on him, to all who call on him in truth. He fulfills the desire of those who fear him; he also hears their cry and saves them.” So here’s the thing: it says He satisfies the desire, not the desires, plural. Like I said before, we were made to be desirers. We were made to desire God and every living thing ultimately has one desire and that’s for Him! But in this fallen world our sin just twists our desires around so that we seek it in every place, but the One Place it will be found.”

“Kindness is personal. It tells us that God cares about how it impacts us. Roman 2:4 says that He actually uses His kindness to lead us to repentance. Psalm 145:17 says that He is both righteous in His works and kind in them. So that leads to this question, ‘How is it that not giving me this really good thing that I really, really want, kind? How is that kind? Well, it is kind in that withholding that one good thing, God is giving us the one True Desire of our heart that we are always trying so desperately to satisfy and that is more of God in our lives. The next verse in Psalm 145 says that Yahweh is near to all who call on Him. So may the thing that we lack, that we wanted so bad, draw us to call on Him. Then He will draw near. And anything that draws us nearer to God is a kindness.” 

“Only in nearness to God will we have all of our desire fulfilled. I like to call this holy discontent. This means that this purpose of this unmet desire is to constantly remind you that only God will satisfy the unending desire of your heart. Elizabeth Elliot says, ‘Heaven is not here, it’s there. If we were given all that we wanted here our hearts would settle for this world and not the next.’ So this holy discontentment is a kindness to keep us longing for more of God.”

“In a constant state of always wanting and never getting, we can be fully satisfied in Christ.”

“We don’t just have to grieve the loss of things that we had that were taken away from us. It is natural and right to grieve the loss of good desires that we never received.”

“When you push the Gospel out of one area of your life, you don’t get to keep it everywhere else.” 

“In John Piper’s video ‘Embrace the Life God Has Given You’ he said something like there are two types of grief. Grieving something you had that was taken from you. And grieving something you’ve always wanted that you’ve never received… Have your tears, have your sadness and sorrow before the Lord, but don’t live in that place. Wash your face and embrace the life the Lord has given you.”

“Jesus’ death on the cross reminds us that even God humbled Himself to experience suffering… He even went to the Lord in Gethsemane and said, ‘If it’s possible, take this cup from me,’ but then Jesus said, ‘Not my will, but Your will be done.’ To walk in the steps of that kind of humble, suffering servant is a gift. We will know Jesus more and fellowship with Him more through experiencing the suffering of not having this impediment removed. The Gospel also reminds us that God already met all of our needs in the Person of Jesus.” 

“It’s easy when you have an unmet desire like this to feel like God is withholding from you. But God cannot withhold the best from us, because He already gave the best to us in Jesus. All of the promises are ‘yes’ to those who believe. All of the promises, even if you’re hurting, even if you don’t have a husband, even if you don’t have children, God is giving you everything you need for the life He has called you to and He has given you everything you need to meet the desire of your heart and that is in the Person of Jesus. We can have a joyful and fulfilling life simply because we have Jesus.” 

“Abiding has been an intimidating word for me in my past Christian life… What does that even mean? But you don’t really want to ask because people give you really open answers and you end up feeling really dumb. Just think about your relationship with one of the most important people in your life, like your husband, your best friend, your mom. You don’t talk to them once in the morning and just forget about them for the rest of the day. You text with them, you look at their Instagram pictures, you think about them, you wish they were there, and you think about when you’re going to spend time with them again. And then you think about them as you’re doing different things… and you think of them as you make plans for your life, how your plans might impact them, and how their thoughts might impact your plans. That’s all abiding with Jesus is! That you’re having continual communication with him. That He be the person that you ‘call on’ when you’re having a really rough day. That’s all abiding is. Making Jesus like those most important people in our lives. When we do that, He stays on the throne, our focus stays on God instead of our circumstances, and all of these good things stay in their right place, seated at the Lord’s feet.”

 

MAGGIE’S RESOURCES

Words Worth Noting Grief and Sorrow Cards

Sovereign by Chris Tomlin

God is Good by Dustin Kensrue

Biblical Counseling

CCEF

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MAGGIE’S SIMPLE JOY’S

Voxer

Sunsets and Sunrises

Fainting Goats

 

OTHER RESOURCES

Gospel Treason by Brad Bigney

Gospel Treason Sermon by Brad Bigney

The Weight of Glory by C.S. Lewis

Embrace the Life God has Given You Video by John Piper

YouVersion App

Bible.is App


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ep. 34 on spiritual disciplines

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ep. 34 | Spiritual Disciplines with Brad Evangelista

On today’s episode of Journeywomen, I chatted with my former pastor and friend Brad Evangelista about spiritual disciplines. Ya’ll, I cried twice in this episode! That’s a first for me! Brad and I talked about everything from the goal of practicing the spiritual disciplines to how doing so will flesh itself out differently based on our season of life. Hello, mamas! This quote brought on the waterworks,  “There’s a 25 or maybe 30-year-old mom that may be listening to this and right now one of the fruits that God is building in her life is not feelings of awesomeness, but right now he’s developing in her life spiritual grit. He’s putting calluses, spiritually speaking, on her hands, so that when she is a 55 or 60 year-old-woman 20 or 30 years from now, she’s going to be able to come alongside a young, tired, struggling, frustrated, mom and say, ‘Sister, you’re going to make it,’ and that’s the fruit that God is producing and anchoring and digging deep into a young woman’s life right now. And the thing is, I would say to that sister is just, ‘Hold on, the harvest will come in and through your life of godliness, but it takes time! It takes time.’” I hope that you guys find this conversation as encouraging and grace-filled as I did.

  1. Can you tell us a little about who you are and what you do?

  2. What are spiritual disciplines? What spiritual disciplines are listed in Scripture?

  3. Why do we/should we practice them? What is the aim/goal of doing so?

  4. How do we practice spiritual disciplines from the Gospel?

  5. How does God use spiritual disciplines to change us?

  6. Where do we receive our desire and power for practicing the spiritual disciplines?

  7. What is the beauty of practicing them? What is the reward?

  8. Is there a particular spiritual discipline that you might consider to be the most important?

  9. Does practicing the disciplines look different based on our season of life?

  10. What suggestions might you offer to someone who is in a demanding season, like mothering little people, studying for college exams, or working long hours?

 

THREE QUESTIONS I ASK EVERY GUEST

  1. What 3 resources would you recommend for someone wanting to grow in their practice of the spiritual disciplines?
  2. What are 3 of your simple joys?
  3. Who has had the biggest influence on your own journey with Jesus?

 

NOTE WORTHY QUOTES

“Spiritual disciplines are any practice that a believer does that promotes spiritual growth, Christlikeness, or sanctification… They are practices, things that you actually do, actions that a believer takes… separate from an attitude. (In his book Spiritual Disciplines) Donald S. Whitney really encourages us to get in the discipline--and that’s where that word comes from---of doing something that maybe our heart and our mind aren’t totally aligned with all the time, in order to put us in a position through habit and through discipline to posture ourselves in a way that we can be in a place where we grow spiritually and the Lord uses all these means to bring His growth and grace and the work of the Spirit into our heart.”

“If I am in Christ, nothing will make me more loved than I already am in Christ." 

“We are saved by works, but it’s by Christ’s works! Nothing can be added to that. Resting in that is so important. But from that rest comes our ability to strive. If we think that striving will lead to rest, then we reverse it and we’re left trying to justify ourselves. But actually, rest, resting in the free grace of the Gospel, resting in the unconditional grace of God through Jesus Christ, then I think empowers us to strive.”

“Romans 8:29 is one of the most important verses for sanctification and striving. Paul says, ‘For those whom He foreknew He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son’... Whatever you believe about those words at the beginning of the verse, we can all agree that that’s speaking of the final state of the believer, however we get there, whatever you believe about how the Lord works out his grace, that’s where believers end up… What does God say about that process? He’s saying that those whom He foreknew He also predestined, to be conformed to the image of His Son! So what God is saying through Paul there is that He guarantees not only our final place, our glorification, that we’re going to be with him, our destination, which is heaven. He is also guaranteeing the process of confirmation whereby we will actually become like Jesus. I take that to mean not just the snap of our fingers at our death when we’re with the Lord, but also the process of sanctification, becoming more like Him.”

“God guarantees that we will be conformed into the image of His Son. With that as my motivation, I want to lean into my laziness, my discouragement, with this kind of guarantee that God has said, ‘This is where you will end up,’ so fight from that place. Strive from that place. Yeah, it will never be perfect in this life, but for me that’s a place that I can strive from rather than a kind of opposite view like, ‘If you do this, then the Lord will be pleased with you,’ that can bring despair in my heart pretty quickly.”

“I think of this picture. It’s like putting yourself in a stream. Picture yourself just being muddy and dirty from a long day’s work. And you just get in a stream and the waters of God’s grace through posturing yourself--Bible reading, prayer, being in fellowship, corporate worship, hearing the Word preached, serving people, etc--you posture yourself to where you are not the center of the universe. That has a slow and gradual and often in the moment imperceptible affect on us to anchor us and to divert our eyes from ourselves. I am so prone to shrink my universe down to the subjective way that I’m feeling in that moment. And in that moment life can come crashing in, I can lose hope, and I can be very discouraged. Even if I’m not feeling the spiritual disciplines, but I’m practicing the habit of coming to my Bible regularly, practicing gathering with the church, just think about the word serving--even if I’m a believer in a local church and I’m signed up for the nursery that week--what’s happening when I’m signed up for the nursery is… in that moment I am actually being forced to take my eyes off of myself and to serve someone else and I actually think that, in a very ordinary way, is at the heart of discipleship and discipline. God is putting me in a situation where I am forced to consider someone else. I’m forced to think about a family who may be dealing with a fussy child. It lifts my eyes from my own belly button.”

“So how does the Lord change us as we kind of practice this ordinary, unspectacular, unromantic, gritty, sometimes begrudging spiritual disciplines in the context of a covenant community? Over the course of time we find ourselves loving Jesus more, being more committed to people that are harder to love in the local church. We find ourselves being more firmly convicted about the things we believe. We are just more stable. That produces in us a kind of gravity that external circumstances cannot knock us off of our blocks as easily. There is a kind of rootedness to a Christian that as a person who is in these regular rhythms that is really attractive. I think the Lord uses that to be a witness to an onlooking world.”

“I want to couch the spiritual life in this context: it is a fight for joy… If I can see my pursuit of the spiritual disciplines as a fight for joy, then I am going to actually be lining my heart up with the way that God actually made me. He’s not against my joy, He’s actually for my joy, and true joys, not counterfeit joys.”

“If you’re a young mother and you’re getting up at five o’clock in the morning or maybe three o’clock in the morning with a fussy child, or a child that needs to eat, maybe the most spiritual thing that you could do in that moment is not beat yourself up because you’re not getting to read your Bible like you want to, but to recognize that right then, you’re serving! You’re serving! That’s a spiritual discipline. You’re serving your child and your family. Maybe the most spiritual thing you can do in that moment is to not be reading your Bible or practicing some more romantic spiritual discipline. Maybe the best thing you can do in that moment is to serve that child and then to go take a nap.”

“Think about what stirs your affections for Christ and think about what decreases your affections for Christ. Have a hard conversation with yourself and do more of the things that stir your affections rather than decrease your affections.” 

“When I am rooted in communion with the Lord and His saints, I am less prone to be a functional atheist.”  

“There’s a kind of rootedness that comes with a person who believes the promises of God and then can act from them.” 

“The Christian life is a fight. It’s a battle. Look at David in the Psalms! One minute he’s praising the Lord and then the next minute in Psalm 13 he’s like, ‘Where are you, O Lord? How long will you forget me?’ The struggle, strain, and the despairing is all loaded into what’s going on in Romans 8:29. It’s part of the way that God weans us from this world and woos us to Himself.”

“Anything that is worth it in this life involves difficulty. And you know, we serve a High Priest who is not unfamiliar with our struggle and strain. He had to be made like us in every way. As the young mom is wrestling, Jesus is not unacquainted with that struggle, that strain, and that wrestling. He had to learn obedience. This is an incredible phrase that I don’t think we can ever really fully understand on this side of eternity, but Hebrews 2 said that Jesus had to learn obedience. So think about that. The Creator God. Colossians 1 said that Jesus created everything but yet, in his humanity--this is a mystery that again we can’t fully even explain doctrinally--Jesus, always fully God, never stopped being fully God, but yet in His humanity had to learn obedience. Let that be an encouragement to a young mom who is struggling, straining, feels like she’s failing. Of course, Jesus never failed, but He endured for us all that we have to endure and is not unacquainted with our weakness. He was made like us in every way. And this season will pass. There’s a 25 or maybe 30-year-old mom that may be listening to this and right now one of the fruits that God is building in her life is not feelings of awesomeness, but right now he’s developing in her life spiritual grit. He’s putting calluses, spiritually speaking, on her hands, so that when she is a 55 or 60 year-old-woman 20 or 30 years from now, she’s going to be able to come alongside a young, tired, struggling, frustrated, mom and say, ‘Sister, you’re going to make it,’ and that’s the fruit that God is producing and anchoring and digging deep into a young woman’s life right now. And the thing is, I would say to that sister is just, ‘Hold on, the harvest will come in and through your life of godliness, but it takes time! It takes time.’”  

“Just take in the Bible. Lower your expectations. Americans are so good at organizing and engineering things, and in a lot of ways even complexifying things. I would say to sisters just read your Bible. Don’t feel like you always have to study. I think sometimes we make an idol out of Bible study and certainly, it’s a wonderful thing to do, I’m not in any way saying we shouldn’t study the Bible, but I do think we have a tendency to over engineer it a little bit. Just read it! Think of it this way, as a child, how did we learn English? When we were two-years-old we didn’t have a copy of Webster’s with us, we just kept hearing that word over and over and over again and by the time we were three we understood more, and by the time we were ten we understood more, and we were just around the language. As you’re around the Bible, as you’re reading it, as you’re hearing it preached, as you’re in a Bible study, you’re becoming more and more fluent in the Scriptures. That happens over the course of time. Don’t be discouraged. Strive from a place of rest.”

“Jesus says that the Sabbath was made for man and man wasn’t made for the Sabbath. The Bible reading plan was made for men and women. Men and women weren’t made for the Bible reading plan. Don’t let that be a law hanging over your head. If you find yourself behind, just keep reading and give yourself grace! Just begin with taking in the Bible as often as you can without the need to study it verse-by-verse.”

 

BRAD’S RESOURCES

Spiritual Disciplines by Donald S. Whitney

The Rare Jewel of Christian Contentment by Jeremiah Burrough

A Little Book on the Christian Life by John Calvin

Marinating yourself in an epistle by simply reading it over-and-over

 

brad’S SIMPLE JOY’S

His family

Preaching the Word

The local church

 

OTHER RESOURCES

The Freedom of Self Forgetfulness by Timothy Keller

The Expulsive Power of a New Affection Thomas Chalmers

Puritan Paperbacks printed by Banner of Truth


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ep. 33 on stewarding your gifts for God's glory

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ep. 33 | stewarding our gifts for God's glory with Ashlee Gadd

On this episode of the Journeywomen podcast, I chatted with Ashlee Gadd about stewarding our gifts. We talked about everything from how to determine what our giftings actually are to how we can use them for God’s glory and not our own. Ashlee is a wife, mother, self-taught writer and photographer from Sacramento, California. When she’s not dancing in the kitchen with her two boys, she loves curling up with a good book, lounging in the sunshine, and making friends on the Internet. She loves writing about everything from motherhood and marriage to friendship and faith. Running Coffee + Crumbs is her dream job, x 100. Listen to what Ashlee said when I asked her about using our gifts in spite of insecurity we might feel: “We were talking about the fall in Genesis when Adam and Eve are hiding from God and then Adam finally shows his face and explains to God that they were hiding because they were naked. Then God says, ‘Who told you that?’ Four words. It’s such a simple question, but it’s one that I can actually return to over and over again when I’m feeling insecurity and those lies are creeping in and strangling me… If I start putting an actual voice to the lies that I am hearing it becomes easier to know what, and more important who, to believe.” I really appreciated her vulnerability, particularly on the topic of stewarding our gifts. If you’d like to connect with Ashlee for more wisdom nuggets like these, or listen to the Coffee and Crumbs podcast, you can find all of that information below.

  1. I know one of the things you’re passionate about is stewarding the gifts we’ve been given. Before we get into that--what are we talking about when we use the term gifts? What does it mean to steward them?

  2. What are some examples of how we’re gifted as the Body of Christ?

  3. Do we all have different gifts? If so, why do you think God gifts us differently?

  4. What are we stewarding them for? 

  5. How do we determine what our gifts are if we aren’t really certain?

  6. What if we know our gifts, but we don’t really like them? What if we want the gifts someone else has been given? What encouragement do you have to own our gifts for the sake of the Body of Christ?

  7. What encouragement do you have for those of us who feel insecure in our giftings? What do you do when you’re scared to step out and actually exercise the gifts you’ve been given?

  8. How do you keep the focus on God’s glory and not your own glory when you’re working hard to bring the Kingdom down to earth?

  9. How do we prevent burnout and fatigue when we’re using our gifts?

  10. What’s the beauty in using our gifts for God’s glory? How have you seen doing so transform your own life?

 

THREE QUESTIONS I ASK EVERY GUEST

 

1.  What 3 resources would you recommend for someone wanting to steward their gifts for God’s glory? 

2.   What are 3 of your simple joys?

3.   Who has had the biggest influence on your own journey with Jesus?

 

NOTE WORTHY QUOTES

 

“Stewarding your gifts means that you’re taking care of them... Stewardship is the responsible overseeing and protecting of something worth caring for.”

“If somebody gave you a really nice gift for Christmas and you came home and threw it in your attic it would be so offensive to the gift giver, you know? God is the Ultimate Gift Giver. He has given us these gifts to open, to put on display, and ultimately to use them for His glory.”

“God doesn’t want us to hide our gifts or bury them in the ground. That’s not what we’ve been told. We’ve been told to shine our light before men.”

“Ask God what your gifts are and ask Him to make them apparent to you.”

“Prayer is my first plan of attack when it comes to knowing what your gifts are. The second one would be to pay attention. Pay attention to yourself. Pay attention to what makes your heart skip a beat. What makes you feel alive. What makes you feel excited. And then also pay attention to the hints that God is offering you. You might be getting affirmation from other people, you might be getting random emails, or messages from strangers, affirming something in you, a talent or a gift that they see in you. You have to listen to that stuff. It’s really, really important. Especially if you’re hearing the same thing over and over and over again. You really need to pay attention to that. The third thing would be to ask people in your life who know you well what you’re good at. What do they think your gifts are? Ask your husband, as your mom, ask your best friend, ask your mentor, ask people that you do life with to share with you the talents that they see in you.”

“Someone out there somewhere said, ‘The perfect intersection (in regard to exercising your gifts) is the thing that you’re good at combined with the thing that you’re passionate about.’”

“Just because you have a gift—and it is a gift—it doesn’t mean you aren’t going to struggle with that at different times or in different seasons. It kind of ebbs and flows. Solidarity, you aren’t alone. As far as wanting gifts that someone else has, we’re always going to be tempted to think that someone else has it better than us. That’s like our default, human mentality. It’s one of discontentment or scarcity. Everyone wakes up every day thinking that the grass is greener on the other side. But I love the phrase, ‘The grass is greener where we water it,’ and I think when we just switch to that mentality of accepting the gifts that the Lord has given us and walking in faith in that calling, fostering those gifts because God has asked us to, that’s where the greatest potential for us to bloom.”

“Something I’ve really been trying to practice lately is paying attention to the words that are swirling around in my head and knowing what is from the Lord, and what is not from the Lord. We had someone share a message at MOPs recently that I loved… So we were talking about the fall in Genesis when Adam and Eve are hiding from God and then Adam finally shows his face and explains to God that they were hiding because they were naked. Then God says, ‘Who told you that?’ Four words. It’s such a simple question, but it’s one that I can actually return to over and over again when i’m feeling insecurity and those lies are creeping in and strangling me… If I start putting an actual voice to the lies that I am hearing it becomes easier to know what, and more important who, to believe.”

“I can walk confidently in my role as a mom and in my giftings because they are from Him!”

“What I need to do is let everything else fall by the wayside and say, ‘Forget what everyone else thinks. Is God pleased with me? Is this work glorifying to God?’ That is literally the only question that matters.”

 

ASHLEE’S RESOURCES

“A Million Little Ways” by Emily P. Freeman

Enneagram

Asking your church what you can do for them

 

ASHLEE’S SIMPLE JOY’S

Popcorn

Candelles

Trader Joe’s Flowers

 

OTHER RESOURCES

"The Magic of Motherhood" by Ashlee Gadd

“The Freedom of Self Forgetfulness” by Timothy Keller

“Free of Me” by Sharon Hodde Miller

 


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ep. 32 on christmas

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ep. 32 | Journeywomen Christmas Special with Kimberly Wootten

On this episode of the Journeywomen podcast I chatted with my friend, Kimberly Wootten, about all things Christmas! Kimbo and I took the three simple joys concept and extended it to three things about Christmas, like three Christmas traditions, three things we want our kids to know about Christmas, and for all of you last-minute shoppers, three gifts you can give, no purchase required. As wonderful as the gifts, traditions, and symbolism around Christmas can be, we’re right there with you feeling on the brink of overwhelmed and over-programmed. If you’re burned out by all that you’ve committed to, we want to encourage you with the grace of the true Christmas message: we don’t have to do it all, because Christ has done it all for us. Praise the Lord that even in the hustle of the holidays we are presented with practical opportunities to embrace the actual meaning of Christmas as we look away from ourselves and look to Jesus. We hope you feel encouraged to do that even now!

 

THREE FAVORITE THINGS ABOUT CHRISTMAS

Food and song

Advent

Christmas traditions

 

THREE CHRISTMAS TRADITIONS to Implement

Advent

Giving to others

Remembering

 

THREE THINGS I WANT MY KID TO KNOW ABOUT CHRISTMAS

Christmas is about Jesus

We give because of what Christ has given to us

To see their mommy yearning for Christ’s coming

 

THREE favorite childhood CHRISTMAS MEMORIES

Sleeping with siblings on Christmas Eve; reading the Christmas story together

Candlelight service on Christmas Eve

The expectation of not putting real names on packages

 

THREE FAVORITE CAROLS

Come Thou Long Expected Jesus

Joy to the World

Hallelujah Chorus

 

THREE PAINS OF CHRISTMAS

Materialism

Busyness

Loneliness

 

THREE INTERESTING THINGS ABOUT CHRISTMAS

Red and green symbolize Christ’s death and the life we have in him.

Evergreen trees have life year round, in the same way that we experience eternal life through Jesus.

Bells are a symbol of ringing in the good news of the Gospel.  

Bonus: We see candles out and about around Christmas time not just because it’s darker for longer periods of time during the winter, but also because this season revolves around the light of the world: Jesus.

 

THREE GIFTS YOU CAN GIVE

Words of Affirmation that communicate value and identity

An Experience

Gifts of Remembrance 

 

HUNTER AND KIMBERLY’S CHRISTMAS RESOURCES

Journeywomen Christmas on Spotify

SheReadsTruth Advent everything -  women, men, kids

Risen Motherhood: Making Christmas Traditions Matter

Behold the Lamb of God by Andrew Peterson


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ep. 31 on community over competition

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ep. 31 | Community over Competition with Jamie Ivey

On this episode of the Journeywomen podcast I chatted with one of my own favorite podcasters, Jamie Ivey, about supporting and encouraging other women. Though I’m sure you probably know her, Jamie is a wife, mother of 4, blogger, podcaster, and author. She hosts one of my go-to podcasts called “The Happy Hour” and is releasing a book in January of 2018 titled "If Only You Knew: My Unlikely, Unavoidable Story of Becoming Free." Through her podcast, Jamie cheers other women on in a way that encourages them to do what they do with excellence for the glory of God! We chatted about everything from our own struggle with comparison to how the Gospel enables us to freely celebrate what God is doing in the lives of our sisters in Christ.

You guys, when I started brainstorming guests and topics for the Journeywomen podcast it was a dream of mine to chat with Jamie Ivey. I’ve been listening to her podcast, The Happy Hour, for years. Her willingness to come on my show was yet another reflection of her kindness and her support for other women in ministry. I walked away from my conversation with Jamie encouraged to communicate value and care to other women who are on their journeys to glorify God in whatever He’s set before them. I hope ya’ll find our chat as inspiring as I did!

  1. When I think Jamie Ivey, I think ‘encourager’ or ‘cheerleader’. Is that something that comes naturally to you or is it a skill you developed?
  2. What makes someone a good cheerleader and encourager of others?
  3. What’s the beauty of stepping outside of ourselves and encouraging someone instead of comparing ourselves to them? How does it build up the body?
  4. How do you cheer friends toward holiness?
  5. What enables us to encourage and support others as they pursue their dreams and goals?
  6. What gets in the way of being able to really encourage and cheer one another on?
  7. Have you ever struggled with comparison or competition with others? What did that look like?
  8. When are we, as women, most subject to comparison? How can we fight against it?
  9. What’s the danger in measuring ourselves up against one another? How is it destructive to the body of Christ/community?
  10. How do you fight comparison against others who are in the same line of work, like speaking, writing, and podcasting?
  11. What does it look like for you practically, considering the reality that you actually have to consider your numbers for advertisements and other things like that for your business?

 

3 Questions I Ask Every Guest

  1. What are 3 resources you'd recommend for someone wanting to grow as an encourager/cheerleader?
  2. What are your 3 simple joys?
  3. Who has had the greatest impact on your journey with Jesus?

 

Note Worthy Quotes

“A good cheerleader is a good listener. When you hear the word cheerleader, your initial thought involves someone talking a lot, yelling a lot, and telling people to follow their dreams. There is a lot of that involved when you’re a cheerleader for those around you, but I think one of the greatest assets of a true cheerleader is to be a really good listener. To be able to really listen to someone--their highs and their lows, what they’re dreaming about and where they’re going, and then to be able to gather those thoughts and cheer them on--that’s what makes a good cheerleader. A lot of times we don’t want to listen to what other people are doing because we are so self-focused on what we’re doing.”

“Cheerleading is valuing someone’s dreams and passions as much as you value your own.”

“I don’t think there’s a magic formula for encouraging others. I think it comes down to, ‘Do I really care about those around me and what they’re doing?’”

“Encouraging others is taking your time, listening to people, and thinking through how you can come alongside them and support them. And that looks different in different seasons of our lives.”

“If you’re a woman and you’re thinking, ‘I don’t have time to cheer on anyone else, I’m just trying to chase my own dream,’ I want to encourage you that it’s going to be easier to chase your own dream when you’re running with other people.”

“In my life right now, I have some pretty close girlfriends who I have a thing with where we can lay it all out on the table--the good, the bad, the ugly, the shameful--we can lay it all out there and our goal at the end is to point one another back to Jesus.”

“What you need from your girlfriends isn’t just someone who will look at you and say, ‘You got this! Pour yourself a glass of wine. It’ll be okay. Pull yourself up by your bootstraps, you can do this!’ Those are some cool phrases that hold some validity at some point in our lives, but I also want to point my girlfriends to the cross and point them to Jesus… If all I hear is encouragement like, ‘Ah, tomorrow’s a new day! You got this!’ then we’ve really missed out on an opportunity to point our friends to Jesus and to really encourage them with the Gospel.”

“Something that gets in the way of cheering one another on is ourselves… Our own selfishness, our jealousy, our pride, things that we all struggle with.”

“Ask yourself, ‘What are the things that I can do in my season to cheer others on around me in this stage of life?’ It will look differently for each of us.”

“My friends are going to point me to Jesus. If they don’t point me to Jesus, what are we doing here?”

“When are we not most subject to comparison? It’s coming at us from everywhere. Whether that is on Instagram, which is my favorite social media median and I love it, but I’m also very aware that I only show you what I want you to see. For example, my daughter is hilarious, but I don’t show you when she rolls her eyes at me or when she throws a fit, you know what I mean? I think comparison is just coming at us from everywhere. As women and as believers we need to acknowledge it and fight it. I’m a big believer in fighting things, because I think when we let go, lay down, and just take it, that’s when we lose the battle. There’s nothing wrong with fighting a battle. Fighting a battle means you’re in it… Say the things you’re struggling with out loud… We need to acknowledge those struggles ourselves and acknowledge them to our girlfriends.”

“The greatest way to keep comparison at bay is to verbally process it with someone who loves you, trusts you, and believes in you.”

“When you start pursuing a dream, define what success means for you early on… Numbers are going to grow, books will sell or not sell, advertisers will come or leave, whatever it might be, but define success super early and let that be the baseline of everything. Every show at the Happy Hour is a success if we have encouraged women, if we have inspired them, and if we have pointed them to Jesus. If those three things happen, that’s what makes a successful show.”

 

JAMIE'S RESOURCES

Work with kids and ask yourself how you can do that in other areas of your life too

Find people who are ahead of you in marriage that you admire and invite yourself over to their house. Ask them to hang out.

Jamie’s Podcast The Happy Hour (recommended by Hunter)

 

JAMIE'S SIMPLE JOYS

Watching her pets play outside. (Jamie caveated that she’s not a freaky animal lover, but watching them play outside makes her happy.)

Her kid’s 6th grade band concert. She said it’s the worst thing she’s ever heard, but she was so proud!

Spending time together as a family.

 

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ep. 30 on idols of the heart

Emily Jensen

ep. 30 | Idols of the Heart with Emily Jensen

On this episode of the Journeywomen podcast, I chatted with Emily Jensen about idols of the heart. We discuss everything from our personal struggles with idolatry to practical ways we can move forward in repentance after seeing our sin. If you know Emily, it goes without saying that we talked about resting in the grace of the Gospel. She said, “It’s always important to remember with idolatry like, this isn’t something that we do on our own. This is something God did on our behalf. That causes us to just be humble and grateful and in awe of God. That’s a key thing. When we are in awe of God and when we are grateful for what he has done, it makes us want to worship Him more and it helps us deal with our idol problem.”

Talking with Emily opened up my eyes to see that while there are lots of little idols I’ve conjured up, they all revolve around ME! My biggest problem really is myself. Understanding that I genuinely am struggling with making much of myself more than anything else has humbled me in the best of ways, providing a sweet opportunity to preach the Gospel to myself and to those around me.

I am continually learning about how the Gospel infiltrates every area of my life and God has really used Emily and her sister-in-law, Laura, to help me flesh that out practically as I listen to their podcast, Risen Motherhood. Emily has been married for eight years, is a mother to five young children, and has a passion for sharing gospel-centered truth with women. I am so grateful we have the opportunity to hear from her today on the topic of idolatry.

  1. Can you tell us a little about who you are and what you do?

  2. What is idolatry? Why is it a problem? When did it originate?

  3. What’s the prescription for healing an idolatrous heart?

  4. What are some things that we, as women, are prone to idolizing? Can we talk about one that you’ve struggled with and one that I struggle with?

  5. What do we do with recurring areas of idolatry?

  6. How can we repent and move forward without wallowing in sadness, beating ourselves up, or trying to fix it on our own when we continually fall back into the same sins?

  7. What are some practical ways we can prayerfully examine our own hearts? What are some practical ways we can protect them from idolatry?

  8. How can we lovingly approach a fellow believer if we see that something or someone has taken the place of God in their heart?

  9. Why is it important for us to have open conversations with other believers about our sin (not just theirs, but ours too)?

  10. What would you say is the number one way we can keep ourselves from idols?

 

3 Questions I Ask Every Guest

  1. What are 3 resources you'd recommend for someone who wants to grow in this area?
  2. What are your 3 simple joys?
  3. Who has had the greatest impact on your journey with Jesus?

 

Note Worthy Quotes

“An idol--at the most fundamental level--is anything that we worship instead of or in addition to God.”

“We see (idolatry) in the literal, physical images that people worship, but we also see it in the value that people are placing in relationships or in possession or in achieving certain things.”

“Worship isn’t just singing on Sunday morning. It’s really a lot more broad. Yes, we are worshipping when we do those things, but worship is really an attitude of our heart and it’s doing everything for God and for his glory and making everything about him.”

 “Worship isn’t just something we do. It defines who we are.” -Paul David Tripp

“Whenever we are transferring our worship of God to something else… it permeates our time, resources, emotional desires, and everything in our lives.”

“It’s a lot harder to be a living sacrifice than a dead one, because you can just crawl right off the altar.”

“At it’s basic level, idolatry is just worshipping something other than God.”

“In general, we need the Gospel… that’s healing in that we are dead in our sins and trespasses, and without the blood of Christ covering our sins, the wages of sin is death. Once we are walking with Christ and we do have his righteousness, we do still struggle with idolatry. But the healing cure isn’t any different, it is still believing the Gospel and rehearsing that truth to ourselves.”  

“Something we do on Risen Motherhood a lot is we go through the four parts of the Gospel and thinking through each part and how it applies: creation-fall-redemption-restoration”

“God created us to worship him alone. Nothing else is going to make us truly happy.”

“Although we deserve to be cut off from God forever, he sent Jesus who comes to earth--who doesn’t have a problem with idolatry--to do his Father’s will. And instead of punishing us, God punished Jesus. He turned his face away from him. And the veil, the thing that separated us from God, was torn in two, so that we can have God dwell in us through the Holy Spirit.” 

“It’s always important to remember with idolatry, this isn’t something that we do on our own. This is something God did on our behalf. That causes us to just be humble and grateful and in awe of God. That’s a key thing. When we are in awe of God and when we are grateful for what he has done, it makes us want to worship Him more and it helps us deal with our idol problem.”

“We live in the already, but not yet. We are already saved if we believe the Gospel, but we are not able to stop sinning, which is really, really frustrating. And so, we look forward to that time when Jesus comes back and in the twinkling of an eye, we’re not going to have these issues anymore. But in the meantime, we are here to love God and love others, and share the Gospel, to make disciples, and do good works on his behalf. And that’s to what end we persevere. When we think about that. As we realize that this battle is already won, the victory is done, we already know the ending, that shapes what we worship today and what we choose to spend our time on today. Going through creation-fall-redemption-restoration helps shape how we heal from this problem and deal with it in our lives.”

“What I notice the most is idolatry issues with relationships: who we love and what we demand of them, and then identity: which is who we are, who we think we are, and who we think we should be.”  

“I have all these little stems that go back to something bigger for me. I would describe it as my idol is myself. I have set up myself as god in my life. I want to orient everything in my life to serve my own purposes. My will is the idol and I sacrifice things on that altar. I’ll put relationships on the altar, material resources on that altar, everything. To me, everything comes back to the fact that i want to be little l lord of my own world.”

“We must remember the truth that we cannot fix ourselves… Our sins do deserve punishment, but we don’t need to beat ourselves up, because Christ was beaten for our sins, both physically and also the wrath of God--God turning his face away--he took that for us. There’s nothing left to be poured out on us. It’s all been consumed. We have to remember that. It blows our minds, we go in circles, and we ask ourselves why God would do that for us, but it’s still true.” 

“As believers, our job isn’t to focus on ourselves at all… we’re not supposed to dwell on ourselves in a negative way either. We’re supposed to be looking at Christ… let’s turn our gaze to Christ, stop self-analyzing, and look at Jesus. It’s amazing how fast that is an antidote for our sin and sadness.”

“If we don’t know the Truth it becomes really hard to counsel our hearts with it.”  

“It’s not always helpful to start on the level of behavior. I think as we’re talking to a friend, or a family member, or a husband, it’s not always that helpful to say, “Hey, do you think you should lay off the shopping a little bit? I think you should just quit that and love Jesus, not your online shopping.” That’ll probably shut somebody down right away. It’s completely different than taking someone to coffee and having a conversation about what God is doing in your hearts and what God is teaching you. Come at it from that angle. Pray with them. Point them to Christ. Then, a lot of times, those deeper things will come to the surface. There’s an element of trusting God, that he is going to be doing that hard work at a deeper level that will filter out to those behavioral levels.”  

“Go back to the heart. Ask, ‘What is really behind all of this? Can I come alongside you in all of that? Can we walk through this together?”

“I don’t think I’ve ever regretted sharing the Gospel.”

“There is a step of affirming and hearing what someone is saying before we jump to the truth… There is an element of just hearing someone and affirming their sadness… We can affirm that what they’re experiencing is a result of the fall. It is sad! It is broken! We can say, ‘Yes, yes, yes,’ to that, but then I think that after we say ‘Yes,’ and affirm that, then I think everybody is ready to hear the hopeful truth of the Gospel.”

 

Emily's Resources

X Ray Questions by David Powleson

The Freedom of Self Forgetfulness by Timothy Keller

Knowing the Bible so that we can counsel our hearts with it

Praying in accordance with God’s will

Community: surrounding ourselves with people who are going to encourage us to believe the truth

How People Change by Paul David Tripp

New Morning Mercies by Paul David Tripp

Awe by Paul David Tripp

Instruments in the Redeemer’s Hands by Paul David Tripp

Parenting by Paul David Tripp

A Gospel Primer by Milton Vincent

 

Emily's Simple Joys

Magic Merlin Sleep Suit

Hymns on Youtube like He Will Hold Me Fast, How Firm a Foundation, Come Ye Sinners, Not in Me, I Asked the Lord

Wood burning fires (indoor)

 

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ep. 29 on living on mission

Gloria Furman

ep. 29 | Living on Mission with Gloria Furman

On this episode of the Journeywomen podcast I had the privilege of chatting with my own present-day hero, Gloria Furman, about living life on mission for Jesus. Gloria is a wife, mother, cross-cultural worker, and the author of some of my favorite books. Gloria and I laughed a lot as we discussed what it looks like to live on mission no matter where you’re at in the world. So you’ll know, she’s actually located across the world and because of the time difference, I woke up around 4:45 in the morning to have this conversation. If you thought my voice was low - just wait till you hear this. You’ll have to excuse my morning voice and delirious laughter for the first five minutes of our conversation. Trust me, it’s worth it.

Every time we talk, I’m astounded by Gloria’s knowledge of Scripture and her ability to answer all of my questions from a Gospel-centered perspective. Listen to what she said, “Your own personal fitness is not the most important thing about your ambassadorship. The most important thing about your ambassadorship is the One who is sending you.”  I left this conversation challenged to intentionally pursue those who are already in my direct sphere of influence as an ambassador for Christ. Alright, enough of me! Let’s dig into my conversation about living on mission with my friend Gloria Furman.

  1. Tell us a little about who you are and what you do.

  2. What does it mean to live missionally and why should we even pursue that kind of lifestyle?

  3. What is the Biblical mandate for living on mission for Jesus? Where do we see Jesus living on mission?

  4. How can we support the Great Commission to go and make disciples of ALL nations wherever it is that God has us today? How do you rectify your idea of "mission" and God's idea of "mission"?

  5. How do you live missionally despite the inconveniences that come along with life—like sickness, disease, sleepless nights with an infant, fussy toddlers, etc?

  6. How might this look different based on our season of life? What does it look like to live on mission when you’re in a demanding season that doesn’t seem to allow you to do ministry the way you’ve always done it or the way you want it to look?

  7. Galatians 6:9 tells us not to grow weary of doing good, for in due season we will reap, if we do not give up. Have you ever had seasons where you did grow weary of doing good and how did you get through that?

  8. How do you live on mission/ fight for contentment with your mission when it feels little and mundane? When we have outlets (thank you social media) to see everyone else's mission seeming to affect the masses, while we aren't convinced ours is affecting anyone?

  9. What do you think it would look like if the women in the Church intentionally lived on mission... scheduled it, prioritized it, made it a practice... instead of filling schedules with "holy things" like church activities, another bible study, another life group, etc?

  10. Obviously Jesus is the ultimate person who lived on mission. Who else has inspired and encouraged you to live missionally?

 

3 Questions I Ask Every Guest

  1. What are 3 resources you'd recommend for someone who wants to live on mission?
  2. What are your 3 simple joys?
  3. Who has had the greatest impact on your journey with Jesus?

 

Note Worthy Quotes

“Living missionally means that you’re living the life that God has set apart for you. That’s in the context he’s put you in, with the gifts that His Spirit has provided you with, with the ministry of reconciliation, which we’ve all been given if we are in Christ, and doing all of that in the strength that He provides. We look to him for the model for that.”  

“God is on mission. His Son was sent on a mission. And He sends and equips us!”  

“God’s mission doesn’t have any boundaries.”  

“If I find myself with free time I didn’t count on or when I'm in a situation I wasn’t planning for, I ask myself ‘What would an ambassador do or say?’ That is a picture he does give us. We are ambassadors for Christ--God is making his appeal through us. With the ambassador illustration that Paul gives us in 2 Corinthians 5, if we know anything about ambassadors we know that they are representatives and that they don’t represent themselves, they represent God… The message you’ve been given is this: reconciliation. You don’t have to wonder, ‘What is it that an ambassador would say?’ We don’t have to wonder. We have the message. Walk by the Spirit and proclaim that truth.”  

“How amicable are God’s people to being sent out to the world? How happy are they about that sent-ness?”

“My own self-perceived fit-ness of being an ambassador for Christ is something that I have to wrestle with all the time. Your own personal fitness is not the most important thing about your ambassadorship. The most important thing about your ambassadorship is the One who is sending you.”

“How our ideal situations look can be so different than what God’s actually doing in and through us and in the people around us. You talk about going to the other side of the world, but are you willing to go to the living room?”

“Don’t sit in your restlessness alone. Bring somebody into that.”

“Weep as somebody who has hope.”

“Remember that the world is round. It’s always morning somewhere. The glory of God is going to cover the face of the earth when every corner of the globe is reached. Maybe you don’t know anybody on the other side of the world, but you can pray for them.”

 “Don’t resist the urge to pray. If you sense the Spirit urging you to pray, stop and pray! It’s only the Spirit leading you. Your flesh doesn’t lead you to pray! If you feel it in you, that’s the Spirit.”

 

Gloria's Resources

Joshua Project Prayer Guide

The Temple and the Church’s Mission by G.K. Beale - see how God has been on mission throughout the whole of Scripture and see yourself in that Story

(order the book above on Book Depository if you’re overseas for free shipping)

Joyfully Spreading the Word (coming out next Spring by several female authors)

 

Gloria's Simple Joys

Mexican Food

 

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ep. 28 on a foundation for understanding sexuality

Chris M Legg

ep. 28 | A Foundation for Understanding Sexuality with Chris Legg

On this episode of the Journeywomen podcast, Chris Legg, a pastor and professional counselor, lays out a foundation for understanding human sexuality. We discuss everything from metaphysics (don’t worry I didn’t know what that meant either) to helping our children understand their sexuality from a Biblical perspective. As mentioned, Chris is a professional counselor and the lead pastor of South Spring Baptist Church in Tyler, TX. Fundamentally, Chris is a minister and shepherd of people, of which I am one and I’m so thankful for the opportunity to discuss such an important topic with someone as thoughtful, experienced, and wise as Chris Legg.

There’s no denying that human sexuality is a sensitive topic. Chris says, “The problem we’re dealing with is an identity question. Let’s get back to the question of, ‘How do you know who you are? How do you know what makes life good? How do you know what makes life valuable? How do you know that you aren’t trash? How do you know that you aren’t meaningless and that your life matters?’ We intuitively know that there is more to life than being sophisticated, eating and pooping machines. In a godless existence that’s all man is… and none of what we do will matter. Something tells us at a deep level that’s really not true.”

On a personal level, I found my conversation with Chris incredibly helpful, yet challenging. It’s difficult to openly discuss something as closely tethered to our identity as our sexuality. This conversation was between two followers of Jesus - me seeking to understand how to navigate such a difficult topic in our society, and Chris teaching me as a pastor, mentor, and friend. My hope is - whether you agree or disagree with the Biblical foundation Chris establishes - that you will find his insight on engaging in grace-filled, educated dialogue very helpful. I hope we can all put into practice his encouragement to seek common ground and to avoid being unnecessarily offensive.

  1. Gender is such a controversial topic that's becoming more and more confusing within Christianity. I want to address it gracefully knowing that it’s closely tethered to people’s identity, but as we do with all of the topics we address on the Journeywomen podcast, I want to look at it through the lens of what the Bible says. What does Scripture say about males and females?

  2. Have there been other periods in history where this has been so confusing as it is today?

  3. Is there a difference between gender and sexuality according to the Bible? How is this different from the way our culture defines gender and sexuality?

  4. Why is it important for us to develop an accurate, Biblical understanding of our God-given sexuality?

  5. What makes you a man? What makes me a woman?

  6. What is it that makes this topic so heated and personal?

  7. How do you engage with someone on this topic, in a Gospel-centered way, especially when their views differ from yours?

  8. What's appropriate regarding expressing our sexuality/gender? Can that look different than the traditional, "Leave It To Beaver" type roles?

  9. How can we address/teach our children/disciples about sexuality?

 

3 Questions I Ask Every Guest

  1. What are 3 resources you'd recommend for someone who wants to develop their foundation for understanding these topics?
  2. What are your 3 simple joys?
  3. Who has had the greatest impact on your journey with Jesus?

 

Note Worthy Quotes

Premodern Metaphysic — One aspect of the many is that there are external sources for everything. Even from just a statement of truth, like what makes something true, that comes from outside of mankind. What makes a chair a chair. That’s outside of mankind. Your opinion and my opinion don’t matter. What matters is there is an absolute right answer. Truth, value, purpose, significance, identity, fate, God, gods — these are all things external. They all come from an external source.

Somewhere in the reformation, Renaissance/Enlightenment period the world began to shift over to a modern metaphysic. 

Modern Metaphysic — There are external sources for things and internal sources for other things. It is an interesting mixture of man is not just a creation, he is a created creator. The universe is not just his or her home, it’s also the material with which he builds his home. America was founded as a modern nation.

Then, somewhere around 1950 you start seeing what we call the postmodern metaphysic.

Postmodern Metaphysic — There are no external sources for anything. Especially when we start applying that to truth, identity, or value.

“The questions we’re dealing with right now with gender and sexuality are an expression of the overall issue which is if nobody or nothing from the outside can tell us who or what we are, then who can? The only person left is ourselves. That is deeply problematic because the human race is deeply flawed. What we’re dealing with is who gets to decide to say anything about me? So who, from the outside can say anything about me? Obviously, in the postmodern metaphysic, God has no rights. Most postmoderns have been raised thinking that no one can tell them anything about themselves from the outside.”

“About half of our country is primarily modern and the other half is primarily postmodern.”

“Masculine and feminine are a cultural phenomenon, not a chromosomal or genetic phenomenon. This is completely cultural… For example, if you’re in a Scottish culture, wearing a kilt is not feminine. Now, if (in our culture) a man wore a different skirt under any other context people would say he’s dressing in a feminine way. Another example, in the Middle East men wear long, flowing robes that are essentially dresses all the time, but in their culture that is considered masculine.” 

“Masculine is what it means to be male… Masculine is the presentation, it is a cultural definition of male or female. It is, ‘This is how our culture knows that you are male or female.’ By the way you act, dress, talk, and every culture is different.” 

“When someone says homosexuality, a lot of times they just mean attraction. Attraction is not sin… The sin would be to engage in a romantic or sexual relationship with that person… Lusting after that thing, being jealous of that thing, yes, those are mental exercises that are sin. But just finding a person interesting, intriguing, or attractive is not sin. That’s just humanity.”

“Isn’t it a fundamental Christian doctrine that we are born fallen?” 

“One of the mistakes vocal Christians make is saying, “We have a special message for homosexuals out there and that is, ‘You need a Savior,’ versus saying ‘Hey we have a special message for the entire race of humanity and that is, ‘You need a Savior. And once you have him, you need him every day and every moment and when you mess up you need him, and when you’re doing great you really, really need him.” That to me is part of the mistake that we’ve made, in that somehow, the sins that we personally find less tasteful, we somehow think are less tasteful to God. You want to find one that’s less tasteful to God, divisiveness in God’s people is listed probably a dozen times more often than any sexual sin, but we don’t seem to have a problem with that one in our churches. Or pride? Pride is always listed number one, and yet we don’t find someone marching around with signs about pride.”

“When you’re talking with most people today, if they disagree with you on one of these topics, it’s because their metaphysic is different than yours. They believe that their role in the universe is to be the ultimate authority in their own life. In fact, the only authority in their own life. They’re the only one who gets to say what is right and wrong, what is valuable and not, what is precious and what is not precious, what is treasure and what is common. You’re not going to have a rational conversation that isn’t going to be offensive with them, no matter how hard you try. What you want to avoid is to be unnecessarily offensive.”

“Jesus is described as the scandal on the stone that makes men stumble. Jesus is scandalous enough without us adding ourselves into the mix too much.” 

“The problem we’re dealing with is an identity question. Let’s get back to the question of, ‘How do you know who you are? How do you know what makes life good? How do you know what makes life valuable? How do you know that you aren’t trash? How do you know that you aren’t meaningless and that your life matters?’ We intuitively know that there is more to life than being sophisticated, eating and pooping machines. In a godless existence that’s all man is… and none of what we do will matter. Something tells us at a deep level that’s really not true.”

“Understanding that male and female is a sex difference. Gender is the sociocultural description of masculine or feminine.”

“You have to work your way to where you agree for any good discussion.”

“A very healthy question, especially for someone who claims to be a Christian is: what is God a source for? Is God a source for truth? Is God a source for morality? What do you think about that? And then the next one is, is God a superior source to you or me? And if he is, how do we know God’s opinion for something?”

“The relationship that Christianity seeks with God is man trying to know what God wants, not what we want for God.”

“From a therapy perspective, we are raising a generation of anchorless people and we have no idea what that is going to cost us. In the next generation, what will that cost us? The truth is, most of the time when a culture gets here, at least since Jesus Christ was on the earth, you have an awakening.”

“Parents have been the leading predictor of what children believe as they get older…Parents are still the number one influence in their child’s life." 

“Don’t try to correct the sinful behavior of lost people. Behavior modification is not what Christianity is about. Jesus didn’t come to prune us, as C.S. Lewis said, he came to tear us up by the roots and start over.”

“One of the ways we fight depression is that we have little joys every day, slightly bigger joys every week, bigger ones every month, and bigger ones every year. By the word ‘simple joy’ I mean the things we look forward to.”

 

Chris's Resources

Chris Legg’s Website

South Spring Baptist Church’s Website

William Lane Craig

J.P. Moreland

"Basic Postmodernism" on Chris’ website

 

Chris's Simple Joys

Reading aloud to his wife Ginger every night

Watching movies with his kids

Meaningless time with meaningful people

 

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ep. 27 on creativity

Ruth Chou Simons

ep. 27 | Creativity with Ruth Chou Simons

On this episode of the Journeywomen podcast I had the privilege of chatting with Ruth Chou Simons on the topic of creativity. Ruth is an artist, writer, entrepreneur, and speaker. She is the creator of the GraceLaced online art shoppe, blog, and the popular Instagram community where she shares scriptural truths daily through honest words and her hand-painted artwork. Ruth and her husband, Troy, live in New Mexico and are grateful parents to six sons—their greatest adventure.

Ruth and I talked about everything from the ministry of coffee dates to emulating Jesus’ creative pursuit of us in the way we pursue others.  She said, “It’s not about how beautiful the actual product is. It is that your hands actually created something that is the vehicle in which somebody else gets to experience the grace of God.” If you don’t consider yourself creative in the traditional sense of the word, this conversation is still for you! Ruth shared how we can all express creativity even in something like a coffee date or a simple, handwritten note.

  1. Tell us a little about who you are, what you do, and how you came to where you are today.

  2. You are an artist, which is exactly why I wanted to have you on the podcast to discuss the topic of creativity. One of the things I seek to do in every episode of the Journeywomen podcast is to tether the topic back to what we see in Scripture. That said, do we see creativity in the Bible? Can you give us an example of that?

  3. Can we reflect the character of God through our own creativity?

  4. What is the aim/goal of expressing our creativity?

  5. As image-bearers of God, are we all creative at some level?

  6. What would it look like to use our creativity as a means by which to share the Gospel?

  7. When/how might we see ourselves misappropriating our creativity and using it for our own glory instead of God’s glory?

  8. For those of us who don’t identify themselves as creatives, what are some non-traditional ways we might actually be expressing creativity already? What are some things we might consider trying?

  9. How do you continue to cultivate and protect space to create when you’re in busy seasons, like motherhood, working, or going to school? On the flip-side, how do you extend grace to yourself when you really want to create, but you aren’t able to make that happen in the way that you really desire?

  10. How do you practice this as a family? How do you engage in creativity with your spouse? How do you encourage your children to create for God’s glory?

 

3 Questions I Ask Every Guest

  1. What 3 resources would you recommend to someone wanting to develop their creativity?

  2. What are your 3 simple joys?

  3. Who has had the greatest impact on your own journey with Jesus?

 

Note Worthy Quotes

“A lot of things that are worth doing are worth doing slowly.” 

“God chooses to tell us his story and his plan for creation and for his people through the details and through his handiwork… He didn’t have to do it that way… I think that’s something that causes us to realize how kind and how merciful God is. He genuinely chooses to meet us and speak to us in the language that makes sense to us.”

“It’s not about the medium or the amount of time or how great the product might be that we’re trying to create, sometimes we think that we just miss a project if it doesn’t turn out exactly the way we want it to turn out. But I think what we see in Scripture is that there’s so much to be said for the intention of creating. What the intention is and what the process is as we witness the power of creation.”

“We were created to reflect his (God’s) creativity. We were created to reflect his character. In his character is an intentionality and a desire to display his glory through the work of his hands, through beauty. It’s natural for us to really long for that.”

“We underestimate how much even in our own handwriting is our own, unique creativity.” 

“It’s not about how beautiful the actual product is. It is that your hands actually created something that is the vehicle in which somebody else gets to experience the grace of God.”

“No one should underestimate the ministry of a coffee date.”

“We can emulate the way we’re pursued by our Savior by pursuing others with our creativity.”  

“How do we woo somebody to the goodness of the Gospel through kindness? By displaying beauty in a way they don’t see easily in the world?”

“Is it possible that our artwork could be less about us and more about the glory of God? Could it be that our song could be something bigger than just trying to create a hit? Is it possible that our creative conversation can ultimately point to someone who has the answers, and not just me? In every way our creativity can ultimately reflect something or someone way bigger than ourselves.”

“We think once we get better we’ll have more to offer or more to say. But the reality is what we see in all of Scripture is that God uses people right where they are, surrendered to them, and he writes their stories for all to see right then and there. Meaning, we don’t get to receive all the glory for turning ourselves into the perfect form of who we want to be before we proclaim him. He wants the broken vessel that we can put together to use for his glory.”

“So if we feel like there’s never enough time, then it’s possible that some of the things that we’ve included in our 24 hours aren’t supposed to be there as the forefront and the priorities.”

“Guarding is often times equivalent to prioritizing. It’s not that we guard as in we’re possessive, like ‘I have this, this is MY time!’ but rather we guard and say ‘Okay, I’m going to make some adjustments and prioritize certain things. So if I prioritize this, be assured that something else will fall to the background,’ and that’s just the coming and going of our adjustments. And maybe we just need to get better about seeing that as acceptable.”

“As artists or perfectionists we look to the fruit. We look to the growth. We look to the bloom. I’ve always struggled with that and thought ‘This painting is only worth it if the end result is spectacular.’ … It’s amazing because I think the Lord has broken me of this by causing me to see how much the good stuff actually happens in the process that I don’t want to have to go through.”

“The sanctification that I know I want, the product, the person that I want to become, that great blossom of a person that I want to be, is actually literally found in all the pruning, tilling, cultivating, and all of the stuff that I’m not welcoming in other seasons. The only thing that remains true is the Word of God.”

“Unless we anchor ourselves to the truth and say, ‘These are the truths about who God is and I can rest in this always regardless of what’s going on.’ From there is when we can believe what he says about who we are.”

“We’re all made to worship. And so we’re going to worship something. Out of our worship comes the overflow of our lives and the work of our hands. If you have this one life and you have this one 80, maybe 100 years, and you choose and recognize that you need to lay yourself at the feet of Jesus and you will worship him alone. Then the more that you worship him, the more the out flow and the overflow into your life becomes the declaration of his goodness and grace.”

“Rather than looking left and right at new trends and fads, keep your eyes on Jesus, because he’s made us infinitely creative because HE is infinitely creative. We are not bound to materials or time or skill. We are only bound by who he has made us to be in light of him. The more you know your Creator, the more he opens up who he’s created you to be.”

“Our methods, our practice, everything flows out of what we believe about who God is and who we are.”

“The grace of God is the love of Christ and it’s personal. It can fuel everything I say, or do, or think.”

 

Ruth's Resources

Look beyond your immediate art form and experience something out of your norm, like going fishing, going to an opera, or taking a cooking class.

Life Creative by Wendy Speake and Kelli Stuart

Fringe Hours by Jessica Turner

The Pursuit of God AW Tozer

Grow in your theology

Because He Loves Me by Elyse Fitzpatrick

 

Ruth's Simple Joys

The great outdoors

Being unplugged

Having conversations with those around her

 

Extra Resource

Ruth on Risen Motherhood

 

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ep. 26 on loving god's word

Gretchen Saffles - Loving God's Word

ep. 26 | Loving God's Word with Gretchen Saffles

On this episode of the Journeywomen podcast, I chatted with Gretchen Saffles of Well-Watered Women about loving God’s Word. Ya'll know this is my favorite topic! I asked Gretchen to chat with me because I know she's passionate about encouraging and equipping women to get into the Word of God and find their identity and purpose in Christ. Gretchen is the founder of Well-Watered Women, an online women's ministry that reaches worldwide, has written several Bible studies, and is the creator of the "Give Me Jesus" quiet time journal for women. Through her online ministry, she longs to meet women right where they are with the hope of the gospel and ignite a desire in their hearts to know Jesus more. On any given day you can find her with a coffee cup in hand, a toddler by her side, a message stirring in her soul, and a God-sized dream on her heart.

As an added bonus, Gretchen has graciously offered ya’ll a discount code to the Well-Watered Women shop from now until November 30, 2017 for 10% off your entire purchase! Use the code JOURNEYWOMEN at checkout. This would be a great time to stock up on meaningful Christmas gifts for your girlfriends!

  1. Tell us a little about who you are, what you do, and the ministry God’s entrusted to you over at @wellwateredwomen.

  2. When did God begin to cultivate in you a passion for the Word?

  3. What is it that you really LOVE about the Word?

  4. How has loving God’s Word changed you? What will the Word do for us as we cultivate a hunger and passion for it?

  5. How do you find motivation to study when you’re not really feeling it or when things just don’t seem to make sense?

  6. How do you share what you’re learning with others? What does it look like for you to inspire and encourage other women with the Word without being obnoxious?

  7. How do you encourage your husband and your son to get into the Word of God?

  8. Have you ever been fearful of sharing what you’re learning in a public setting, like online, in a small group, or in front of an audience? If not, how do you boldly proclaim the truth despite the reality that we are prone to error? If you have been fearful, what encourages you do continue sharing/teaching the Word of God, despite the fact that our understanding of the Bible is ever-developing?

  9. What has giving God the first fruits of your time looked like in varying seasons, like college, when you were a newlywed, in motherhood, and running a business? What practical tips can you offer for cultivating a heart for the Word even when you’re in a busy season?

  10. What’s your favorite book of the Bible/which book has been the most impactful/life changing?

 

3 Questions I Ask Every Guest

  1. What are 3 resources would you recommend to someone who wants to cultivate a love for the Word?

  2. What are your 3 simple joys?

  3. Who has had the greatest impact on your own journey with Jesus?

 

Note Worthy Quotes

“This life is so short. It’s too short to not do what the Lord has called us to do.”

“Scripture is all one story, one complete story, sharing this Good News of Christ and that he is in it from beginning to end. Once that clicked… it was like everything changed.”

“Hebrews 4:12 says that the Word of God is living and active and I can honestly say that no other book compares to the words of Scripture. It’s like a bottomless treasure chest that we can never exhaust.”  

“I know we say we’re so busy, but if you just track the amount of time you open up your phone to look at social media, or maybe you watch that YouTube video or show on Netflix, all that time adds up to being a crazy amount of time. I have realized that I never regret waking up a few minutes early or turning off my phone to spend time with him.”

“God’s Word is always alive and it’s what we need.”

“Our human nature is to come to our quiet time and to walk away thinking, ‘I’ve got to have something to impress people,’ and we come with a motive and an agenda, when really we should be coming with hearts ready to meet with the Lord.”

“Refuse to let your public passion exceed your private devotion.” -Francis Chan

“Christ just calls us to show up as we are. And whenever we share with vulnerability and yet with confidence pointing to Christ and how he fulfills, satisfies, delivers, and redeems, that’s what draws women to hear the Word, because that’s the message of the Gospel.”

“Ministry shouldn’t be compartmentalized it should flow into every aspect of our life.”

“If there’s a woman whose husband isn’t getting in the Word, my greatest encouragement for her would be to keep getting into the Word. Keep praying, keep opening up Scripture, and be that woman who fears the Lord and serves her husband well.”

 “I view social media and all of the things I do online as an opportunity to worship the Lord and to speak the truth of Christ in love and yet in boldness. The Gospel is meant to be bold.”

“Truth without love destroys and love without truth deceives. But truth with love delivers.”

“How am I teaching the Gospel rightly and fully right where I am? And how am I also cultivating a deeper walk with God in all of this? Following Jesus’ example in all of this has really been helpful too.”

“I’d encourage women not to do things backwards. Our tendency is to give God our leftovers… Flip that around. Give him your best moments.”

“The more we have to do on this earth, the more we should be getting into God’s Word. That is what’s going to equip us to do everything else.”

“It’s so easy for us to put doing before being with Jesus, but we cannot do things for Jesus unless we have first been with him.” 

“The words ‘quiet time’ aren’t even in the Bible. We’re supposed to abide. Abiding doesn’t look like this one moment thing every day. Abiding is a moment-by-moment remaining in Jesus, being with Jesus, keeping our eyes on him.”

“You make time for what matters most to you.”

“Jesus is with you. He’s not disappointed in you in your season. He has equipped you. There are so many different ways you can get into the Word.”

“Find ways to fill your life with Scripture.”

“I keep a cactus on my desk because I want a reminder that a cactus survives and thrives in the desert because it collects water and retains it for the seasons and moments when it's dry. We’re the same way. We need to retain God’s Word, store it up in our hearts, surround ourselves with it, and he will use it to carry us through those moments.”

 

Gretchen's Resources

Women of the Word by Jen Wilkin

Help me Teach the Bible Podcast with Nancy Guthrie

Desiring God Website

 

gretchen's Simple Joys

Her morning coffee

A Kindle (more specifically, reading with the backlight)

The Autobiography of George Muller

Tim Keller Twitter Account with Kindle Deals - @dailykeller

Going on family adventures

 

Connect with gretchen


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ep.25 on the gospel and advocacy

Jenn Haskew - The Gospel and Advocacy

ep. 25 | The Gospel and Advocacy with Jenn Haskew

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On this episode of the Journeywomen podcast, I chatted with Jennifer Haskew, my former mentor and real-life friend, about the Gospel and advocacy. Jenn is a Texas transplant living in Los Angeles with her husband, Patrick. Together, they have had the privilege of fostering seven children. Jenn also runs a sleep consulting business, is a personal trainer, and a seminary student who hopes to use her education to continue advocating for the voiceless in their city.

As with every episode, if listening to my conversation with Jenn draws out big feelings, I want to encourage you to seek out a friend to help you process. This particular episode could bring up triggers if you have a background in foster care, adoption, or a history of abuse. As Jenn and I mention, we encourage you to pursue professional counseling if needed, just as we have done ourselves. On a personal level, this conversation inspires me to pray for opportunities to stand in the gap with my God-given gifts and resources to help someone in need. 

Jenn said, “I think if you have resources that someone else doesn’t have, you have an opportunity to advocate. That can be when you see someone walking down the street trying to carry two children and they don’t have a stroller, so you let them use your stroller. Or someone is sick and you bring them food. Or a special needs student’s parents who may not understand the hierarchy in the system, but you have some education, so you go with them to their IEP meetings. Or a co-worker who might not feel heard, so you help them navigate the waters of talking with their boss at work. The more common things we hear are modern day slavery, foster parenting, but it doesn't have to be a big thing. It can be as small as taking a meal to someone. Take a step in any direction.”  

I hope you guys will take the steps the Lord is leading you towards to put his glorious Gospel on display for a lost and dying world to see.

  1. How have you served as an advocate for others in your life? When did you first start to see that in yourself? What inspired you to that end?

  2. Why do we practice advocacy? What (or who) enables us to do that? What are some ways in which we, as a church, can practice advocacy?

  3. Can you share a little about the role(s) God has given you to be an advocate for others in your current season?

  4. I want to hone in on your role as a foster mama for a second, because I know a lot of our listeners are either fostering themselves or know someone who is practically advocating for another person in this capacity. What made you decide to pursue fostering? Do you feel like certain people are “called” to foster? Or should we all be engaging in fostering and/or adoption?

  5. How is fostering to adopt different than fostering? Why did you chose fostering and not just going straight to adoption?

  6. What do you wish you would have known going into the messy work of helping other people and really sharing your life with them?

  7. How do you respond when people say, “I could never do that”?

  8. Is it true that most kiddos in the foster care system have experienced some level of trauma? Have you ever experienced trauma, personally, being a foster mom or helping other people? How do you process through that, personally?

  9. Is there a time in which we can go too far and actually enable someone when we’re trying to help them?

  10. Have you ever faced burn-out and gotten really tired? What did that look like? What does self care look like for you in the midst of helping people in need? And for marriage too?

  11. How can we come together as a church to share the burden of helping those in need (particularly when we are in busy seasons of life ourselves)? How has your community come alongside you?

  12. What’s the joy of advocating for others in general, not just in the role of fostering?

  13. What are some practical starting points for people who want to serve as an advocate for those in need?

 

3 Questions I Ask Every Guest

  1. What 3 resources would you recommend for people wanting to serve as an advocate for those in need?
  2. What are 3 of your simple joys?
  3. Who has had the biggest influence on your own journey with Jesus?

 

Note Worthy Quotes

“An advocate is someone who steps in, supports or speaks on behalf of, or offers aid to somebody else. In order to advocate you have to realize that there is someone who has need and areas where you have resources that they might not have.”

“You have to realize there’s a need and way that you can meet that need.”

We can stand in the gap for others… “Because Jesus. Jesus did it in the ultimate way.”  

“In order to be an advocate, before you can advocate, you must understand the challenges of those that you’re advocating for and you have to become like them… That’s what Jesus did for us. He doesn’t stay above us in the heavenly realms and advocate for us from afar. He came down, became a human, and then the Spirit now gets to advocate amongst us and for us on earth. I think we really just follow his example.”

“I think if you have resources that someone else doesn’t have, you have an opportunity to advocate. That can be when you see someone walking down the street trying to carry two children and they don’t have a stroller, so you let them use your stroller. Or someone is sick and you bring them food. Or a special needs student’s parents who may not understand the hierarchy in of the system, but you have some education, so you go with them to their IEP meetings. Or a co-worker who might not feel heard, so you help them navigate the waters of talking with their boss at work. The more common things we hear are modern day slavery, foster parenting, but it doesn't have to be a big thing. It can be as small as taking a meal to someone. Take a step in any direction.”

“I wish I had known that you don’t just foster one kid. You really are fostering an entire family.”

“I often say, ‘God will give me the grace for today.’”

“The more we communicate in relationship, the more we can realize what it is that the person actually needs.”

“Surround yourself with people who exude passion about advocating for other people.” 

“Kingdom building work is exciting! I have been given a privilege to get to do this. It’s fun. Bringing God’s kingdom to earth, restoring things, and making it the way that it was supposed to be and once was is fun.”

“Think about what makes your heart beat fast. We naturally advocate when it’s an area that we really love. Think about the areas you love and what resources you have and who you could share those with.”

“Enter into their suffering and try to really understand it. Not with the point of understanding it, but because you want to be their friend.”

 

Jenn's Resources

Think about what makes your heart beat fast

Find someone you see who is advocating well and get to know them

Volunteer somewhere locally

Karyn Purvis Institute

 

Jenn's Simple Joys

Open windows

Gel Manicure Nails

Iced Tea

 

Connect with Jenn


SPONSORSHIP DETAILS

 

Today's episode of the Journeywomen Podcast is sponsored by T Bar M Camps.  

Ya’ll have heard me talk about how much camp has impacted my own life. Because of that, I want to tell you about a special camp, T Bar M, that’s located in New Braunfels, TX. You’ve probably heard of T Bar M for their incredible summer camps, but did you know that you can retreat with them year round?  Having spent a year on a camp property, I know there is something powerful that happens when we get away with the goal of nurturing our relationships with God and with each other. If you have a group that needs to retreat, T Bar M is definitely the place to go. It’s is a unique property with lots of space, a perfect spot to strengthen your team by unplugging from routine and breathing life into your people. Best of all, the staff at T Bar M will come alongside of you to accomplish your goals in a Christ-centered environment. Right now, T Bar M is partnering with Journeywomen to help you retreat well! Visit tbarm.org/journeywomen and get a free Ebook on the value of retreating, along with 15% off your first retreat experience!

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ep.24 on fun!

Annie F. Downs

ep. 24 | Fun! with Annie F. Downs

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On this episode of the Journeywomen podcast I chatted with Annie F. Downs on the topic of FUN! Flawed but funny, Annie uses her writing to highlight the everyday goodness of a real and present God. She’s the author of many books, one of which comes out TOMORROW, October 24, called 100 days to Brave. Annie loves traveling around the country speaking to young women, college students, and adults and I can’t wait for you to hear from her today.  

As you’ll hear me confess, this episode was a selfish endeavor. Having fun is a weak spot for me, particularly when I’m under stress. Annie and I discuss everything from the purpose of fun-having to verses in the Bible that might actually be funny. Here’s why I wanted to have Annie on the show to talk about fun. She said, “I feel like part of the call on my life is to bring joy and fun into the lives of other people so that they will see God. Not so that they will see me.” Before I tease you any further, I have to share the companies that made today’s episode possible: HelloFresh and Oh, Sweet Joy. We’re so thankful for sponsorships as they help keep the Journeywomen podcast happy and healthy! You can read more about them below.

  1. At the risk of sounding boring, do you have a definition of "fun" that you might be willing to share with us? What is fun?

  2. What's the biblical backing for fun-having? How does it relate to the Gospel? 

  3. I have heard you say that you’re an Enneagram 7. Does that mean you’re naturally wired to seek out fun experiences? What's your encouragement to those of us who are not wired that way?

  4. If we struggle to loosen up and play, can we get better at it? What are some practical ways you have grown in this area of your life?

  5. What are some ways you encourage your disciples to play and have fun?

  6. What tips do you have for making a really boring day fun?

  7. I know I've had people only want the fun version of me in the past and not the rest. Have you had difficulty feeling that people always expect you to be "fun"? What about days when you're down?

  8. How do you balance social media/personal branding when people expect fun and funny and happy Annie? Do you find it challenging to be real but also give the people what they expect?

  9. How do you balance being lighthearted and playful while also bringing truth?

  10. If you could plan a day of fun for yourself, what would it involve?

 

3 Questions I Ask Every Guest

  1. What 3 resources would you recommend for someone wanting to grow in this area?
  2. What are 3 of your simple joys?
  3. Who has had the biggest influence on your own journey with Jesus?

 

Note Worthy Quotes

“I love fun, but I don’t love fun just for fun. I love fun because it is a release and a reflection, and I want to help people do both of those things.”

“Maybe the glasses (we wear) should be looking for the fun, but looking at whatever I’m doing and calling it fun.”

“Waking up for me involves asking, ‘What is happening today, how is that fun, and what’s good about it?’ I use the word fun loosely, but I don’t use the word good loosely. God’s doing good stuff every day. I’ve had hard things happen, just like everyone… but can I look at the life that God’s given me and find love and joy and peace in it?” 

“Fun is a shift in how you see the life you already have. It’s not a goal in finding a brand new life.”

“Fun already exists, you just need to see it. Fun is also release. Fun is openness. Fun is opportunity. I never want to define fun for anyone else… Whatever connects with the guts of who you are and makes you feel at peace and have a smile on your face and want to invite people into it, I call that fun.”

“You do not have to love a theme park to have fun. And you do not have to love a theme park for anyone else to think you’re fun or for them to have fun with you.”

“You get to define fun for yourself. And inviting people into it really matters to me.”

“What we do see Jesus do all the time is sitting around with his friends and talk. We see him reclining at tables and eating. Even when he turned water into wine at Cana he was actually just at the wedding. What that tells me about Jesus’ personality is that the bride and groom wanted Jesus to come.”

“Even in this life, the way the Holy Spirit reveals God and Jesus and himself to us, I don’t want to run out of time before I’ve learned as much as I can learn of the Bible while I’m still here.” 

“Every good thing we see in someone else, we know is from God’s personality.”  

“The joy of the Lord is my strength. That’s really true. But I do think there is a difference between joy and fun.”

“Joy is what you persevere for and hope is what you persevere for. Fun is a release in the middle of the perseverance.”

“Joy cannot be dependent on your circumstances. I can’t decide if I’m joyful if I’m hungry or not hungry, whether I’m satisfied or not satisfied, whether the date’s gone good or gone bad. Joy has to stay. Fun doesn’t have to stay. I can have a bad day and have no fun and that’s real and that’s normal. But the deep work of God is the joy that I’m not willing to lose or live without.”

“I have friends who don’t know Jesus who have good lives. You can experience a version of joy outside of your faith walk. But there is no joy like the joy of knowing Jesus.”

“We see a side of each other and a side of Jesus and a side of the planet in the middle of fun that we don’t see any other time.”

“Reassess what you call fun. Erase the historic belief that fun is big and loud and four hours. It doesn’t have to be all that.”

“If you want to really want to invite fun into your life and really find it in the life you already have, you need to redefine it for yourself. Stop asking it to be big and let it be little.”  

“If we don’t have fun and rest written into our lives we will not be marathon Christians.”

A ‘play’ from Annie’s work ‘playbook’: “Work hard, play hard, rest hard, pray hard.”

“It matters to me that the people I’m going to be around know that play and fun are real values in my life. It’s what makes me feel the most alive.”

“I feel like I am to bring joy and fun into the lives of other people so that they will see God. Not so that they will see me.”  

“On stages and in books I work really hard to earn the right to be heard so that I can say the true thing.”

“There is a tension between being serious and being fun. I am willing to try and hold that tension.”

“I’m not supposed to be Jesus to them. I’m supposed to be Annie to them. When they see Annie and they realize that Annie only exists because Jesus is kind and because he saved me once, but he rescues me all the time. When they like Annie they will see Jesus.”

“When we all choose to be the very center-core best version of ourselves people will see Jesus.”

“Doing life with Jesus is really fun! And I don’t say that like I’m in front of 2,000 teenagers and I’m trying to pump them up… The adventures I get to live because Jesus is driving this car is beyond anything I could have thought up myself.”

“My body and my mind and my spirit being on the same team is life changing. My spirit and my mind cannot do the things I’m called to if my body gives out.”

 

annie's Resources

That Sounds Fun with Annie F. Downs

Sitting around a table with your people and talk about what fun looks like for you

ETST Instagram Account by Kelle Hampton

Fields, Factories, and Seasons by Jason Miller 

 

annie's Simple Joys

Baths

Being around a table with good food and friends

 

other resources

100 Days to Brave by Annie F. Downs

Against All Grain by Danielle Walker

 

Connect with annie


SPONSORSHIP DETAILS

HelloFresh is the meal kit delivery service that makes cooking more fun so you can focus on the whole experience, not just the final plate. Ya’ll, when I found my HelloFresh box on my doorstep I actually squealed. HelloFresh delivers food to your doorstep in a recyclable, insulated box for free. I was so impressed by the packaging and meal plan instructions. Listen to this, without even thinking, I had everything I needed to prepare Thai-Spiced Pork Meatballs, Carolina Barbecue Chicken, and Adobo Loco Steak. What?! I felt so gourmet. Each meal was delicious and the step-by-step instructions made it easy to prepare brand new recipes for my family. HelloFresh sources the freshest ingredients, measured to the exact quantities needed so there’s no food waste. They even employ two full-time registered dietitians on staff who review each recipe to ensure it is nutritionally balanced. For $30 off your first week of HelloFresh, visit hellofresh.com and enter “Journeywomen30”. 


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Oh, Sweet Joy is an online clothing company based near Boulder, Colorado. Curated by Kim Davis, who is a church planter's wife that has a passion for style & fashion, Oh, Sweet Joy seeks to provide affordable clothing that is sourced from the USA as often as possible. If you're looking for some unique boho-inspired apparel that gives a nod to the south, head over to shopohsweetjoy.com and use the code JOURNEYWOMEN for 10% off your entire purchase.

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ep.23 on the big story of the bible

Caroline Cobb

ep. 23 | The Big Story of the Bible with Caroline Cobb

On this episode of the Journeywomen podcast I had the privilege of chatting with Caroline Cobb. Caroline is a singer-songwriter and worship leader particularly interested in telling the stories of scripture through her music. Her new album A Home + A Hunger centers around the biblical theme of kingdom hope in exile. Caroline and I talked about how viewing Scripture as one Big Story has not only developed our theology, but literally transformed us. I love her encouragement to keep looking at Scripture, no matter what season we’re in or how much time we’re able to devote to studying, because God will use Scripture to change our lives. My favorite quote was, “The Bible is a book about God. It’s not about us. What’s really cool about it is that when we go to Scripture looking for God and not just looking for a quick, Instagram-sized encouragement or whatever, then that is where we find TRUE encouragement, when we’re gazing upward at him instead of trying to get a quick answer or just feel better." I’m encouraged to continue my quest to grow in my understanding of how this Grand Narrative works it’s way throughout all of history. I hope you’ll join me! 

  1. I just finished reading through the Bible with the goal of better understanding how the Bible connects from Genesis to Revelation and I found your music so helpful for comprehending and remembering the Big Storyline of Scripture. Can you tell us a little about the heart behind your work?

  2. Before we get ahead of ourselves, can you offer a summary of the message that your album seeks to communicate? 

  3. When did you first begin to understand that all of the stories of the Bible fit together and collectively point to one thing/person/event?

  4. Why is it important that we understand that?

  5. What has helped you to develop your understanding of the metanarrative?

  6. What do you do when you come across a story or a passage in Scripture and you don't really understand how it fits into the Big Story?

  7. How does understanding the Big Story impact your day-to-day life?

  8. What's at risk if we don't read the Bible or frame our own lives in the context of the Greater Story?

  9. What encouragement do you have for someone who wants to develop their understanding of the Bible as one Big Story, but who feels intimidated and doesn't know where to start?

  10. What recommendations do you have for someone who wants to read the Bible with the goal of understanding the metanarrative, but who finds herself in a busy season?

  11. How will knowing and understanding the metanarrative of Scripture change us?

 

3 Questions I Ask Every Guest

  1. What 3 resources would you recommend for someone wanting to develop their understanding of the metanarrative or the Big Story of Scripture?
  2. What are 3 of your simple joys?
  3. Who has had the biggest influence on your own journey with Jesus?

 

Note Worthy Quotes

“In the beginning when God created the world he created Adam and Eve and humanity to be with him, in communion with him. Because of sin, that broke… there was a brokenness with creation, with our Creator, and with each other. But even from the beginning in Genesis 3:15 there is this promise that God makes even as he’s telling [Adam and Eve] the punishment for their sin, and it’s that one of Eve’s descendants will crush the serpent’s head. Even from the beginning there is a beautiful story of rescue happening. Even as you go through the Old Testament you can see shadows of a Messiah who is coming and promises of redemption and rescue. Finally when Christ comes on the scene this brokenness that we’ve felt begins to go in reverse. The end of the story is -- which we sometimes forget -- is that he will come and wipe every tear from our eyes and be with us. We will be able to have restored communion with him, eventually, along with every tribe, nation, and tongue. It’s going to be good. That’s what we were made for.”

“This is a Big Story that’s not really about us, but that we get to be a part of.”

“It takes so much pressure off of us, to know that we don’t have to be great like [x, y, or z Bible character].”

“The Bible is a book about God. It’s not about us. What’s really cool about it is that when we go to Scripture looking for God and not just looking for a quick, Instagram-sized encouragement or whatever, then that is where we find TRUE encouragement, when we’re gazing upward at him instead of trying to get a quick answer or just feel better. That is a huge one. We can’t make it fit what we want it to say. It’s really only by looking at Christ and not ourselves that we grow and that we find true encouragement and hope.”

“The hope of the end of the story that Jesus’ kingdom is already breaking in, that he is a judge God, and that he will not just let evil go unpunished, that one day he will wipe away our tears and that all of the sad things will come untrue as it says, and that brings us so much hope.”

“We have to trust that as we’re looking for Christ in Scripture, as we’re wanting to behold him as he is and not as we’re trying to make him to be, as we behold Christ the Bible will transform us.”  

“Just keep looking at Scripture. It will change you.”

“How beautiful is God’s Word that even though I’ve been a Christian for a long time that we can continue to learn and understand new things?” 

“Give him [God] the first fruits of your time.”

“Jesus has completed it for you. He loves you. We live obediently and struggle against our sin not to earn his favor but because that’s what the Gospel frees us to do.”

 

Caroline's Resources

Missional Motherhood by Gloria Furman

The Jesus Storybook Bible by Sally Lloyd Jones

 Studies by Jen Wilkin

Studies by Nancy Guthrie

From Garden to Glory by Courtney Doctor

The Story of God’s Love for You by Sally Lloyd Jones

Cover-to-Cover Facebook Group that Hunter mentioned

 

Caroline's Simple Joys

Young Adult Fantasy Fiction (Harry Potter or The Wing Feather Saga)

Adventure

Songwriting

 

Other Resources

Cover to Cover Bible Reading Group on Facebook

 

Connect with Caroline


SPONSORSHIP DETAILS

Today's episode of the Journeywomen Podcast is sponsored by T Bar M Camps.  

Ya’ll have heard me talk about how much camp has impacted my life... Well, there is a camp in New Braunfels, TX that I love called T Bar M. You may have heard of T Bar M for their incredible kids summer camps, but did you know that you can retreat with them year round? Having spent a year on a camp property, I believe there is something about getting away and being in nature that is good for the soul. Growth is bound to happen when you experience that with other people, be it your family, ministry or business.

If you have a group that needs to retreat, T Bar M is the place to go. T Bar M is a unique property with lots of space, whether it’s a getaway or full on programming and team-building, T Bar M is excited to come alongside of you to accomplish your goals in a Christ-centered environment. Texas may be a quite trip for many of you, but situated between Austin and San Antonio, T Bar M is in close proximity to two airports.

Right now, T Bar M is partnering with Journeywomen to help you retreat well! Visit
tbarm.org/journeywomen and get a free Ebook on the value of retreating, along with 15% off your first retreat experience!

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ep.22 on walking in wisdom

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ep. 22 | Walking in Wisdom with Liz Curtis Higgs

On this episode of the Journeywomen podcast I had the privilege of chatting with Liz Curtis Higgs. Liz has one goal: to help women embrace the grace of God with joy and abandon. Her messages are biblical, encouraging, down-to-earth, and profoundly funny, helping sisters and seekers experience the depth of God’s love. She is the author of 37 books with 4.6 million copies in print, including her nonfiction bestsellers Bad Girls of the Bible, The Girl’s Still Got It, The Women of Christmas and The Women of Easter. She has spoken at 1,700 women’s conferences in all 50 states and 14 countries. A former radio personality, Higgs has appeared on more than 700 media outlets including NPR, “Focus on the Family,” “Life Today,” Chris Fabry Live, PBS and A&E. She is happily married to Bill Higgs and they share their life together in a 19th century farmhouse in Louisville, Kentucky.

I’m so grateful for women who have fervently followed Jesus much longer than me, like Liz. What a JOY to get an hour of her time to chat about journeying with wisdom and grace. We discussed everything from being former bad girls rescued by God’s grace to raising babies of our own, all of it peppered by Liz’s flair for funny. Hope you guys enjoy our conversation as much as I did!

  1. Liz, I love that you’ve been walking women through the Bible for nearly two decades and that you’re passionate about Biblical literacy. Can you share with us where that passion started for you?

  2. How have you developed your own personal knowledge of the Bible?

  3. What prompted you to write you most recent book on the Proverbs? Is it considered a devotional, Bible study, or both?

  4. Proverbs is known for being a book of wisdom. What does it look like for us to walk in wisdom as believers?

  5. How can we know if we’re walking in wisdom or not?

  6. Do you have a personal favorite from the Proverbs included in your book?

  7. One of my favorites is Proverbs 16:3 which says, “Commit to the LORD whatever you do, and he will establish your plans.” Can you help us break this one down?

  8. I’m developing my understanding of how everything in both the Old and New Testament is part of the Greater Story of God’s plan to rescue his people through his son, Jesus. That said, do we see the Gospel in Proverbs? If so, can you help us understand where we see it?

  9. You wrote, “What we consider mistakes, God considers lessons.” This is getting really honest, but I have a hard time looking to the Gospel when I’ve made a mistake. It’s an active practice for me. What encouragement do you have for me and for anyone else who feels like the messes they make are tallied against them instead of washed clean by the blood of Jesus?

  10. What is the joy/benefit/freedom of walking in wisdom?

 

3 Questions I Ask Every Guest

  1. What 3 resources would you recommend for someone who wants to grow in wisdom?
  2. What are 3 of your simple joys?
  3. Who has had the biggest influence on your own journey with Jesus?

 

Note Worthy Quotes

“I don’t want my kids to see a perfect mother, I want my kids to see a perfect Heavenly Father who is at work in all of us, including them, including mom and dad, including grandparents, everybody.”

“My message to mothers is: first of all, don’t be hard on yourself. You’re doing everything you can do. What mother doesn’t? It’s just we’re so aware of all we didn’t do, can’t ‘do, or don’t have the energy to do. We’re always aware of how short we fall. But here is our good, good, Father who bridges the gap between everything we can’t do as parents and what He can do, which is of course, everything.”

“The Body shows us where our faults lie, where our prejudices lie, where our judgmental nature might be hiding and I’m so grateful that we have a God that loves us as much as he does, is ever-training, never-grows-weary, never grows faint, and never sleeps.”  

“The maturing process is FUN. It just gets better. But that isn’t the message that our culture gives us. Our culture says that young is cool and old is dull and it gets less fun and more horrible every year. That is really not the truth. It’s a real lie. The truth is, if you look for fun it is there in every season.”  

“If you’re going to get full of the Word, you HAVE to pour it out.”  

“Wisdom is a light for your path. That’s what wisdom does. It lights your path. And it’s God’s light shining in us.” 

“The Lord isn’t just weighing our actions. He cares about our motives. Often we try hard to get our act together to look good and that doesn’t work for God at all. He really only cares about what is happening inside.”

“It’s got to be a word from the Word to really have any value.”  

“It’s all Jesus. It is nothing BUT Jesus. Any good thing in us is the God thing in us.”

“If the goodness comes from God. Then the rotten fruit comes from God’s enemy who is our enemy. Guilt, shame, and condemnation never come from God. [God] convicts, but his conviction is always in love, it’s always gentle. The voice of Jesus correcting us is love, but the voice of the enemy condemning us is hate.”

“Are you talking about a real Satan?” Yes. I am. If I’m talking about a real God, I have to talk about a real enemy. He’s there. He’s all through Scripture. He certainly was there in the life of Christ. He is real, but he’s not worthy of our attention, of our listening-to and doing what he asks us to do, so we have to understand the difference between conviction of God and the condemnation of the enemy.”

“God has left us on this earth to walk this walk. We don’t get it all right until we stand in His presence."

“Any wisdom I have is God’s. Any walk I’m doing, He’s laying down every rock in front of me.” 

“If we can stand on the path we’re on and take one step of faith at a time, we can be absolutely sure we’re on the path that he wants us to be on.” 

“It’s not that every day is perfect, but every day is perfectly what He has for us.” 

“I would tell my younger self to stick to 40 hours a week. I would tell my old self that too, actually.”

 

Liz's Resources

The Word - multiple translations

Bible Gateway

Reading the Bible Aloud

31 Proverbs to Light Your Path

 

Liz's Simple Joys

Road tripping with her husband

Sitting around the kitchen table playing games like Scrabble, cards, UNO, or Set

Cuddling with her two, grey, tabby cats Boaz and Sampson

 

Connect with liz


SPONSORSHIP DETAILS

Today's episode of the Journeywomen Podcast is sponsored by T Bar M Camps.  

Ya’ll have heard me talk about how much camp has impacted my life... Well, there is a camp in New Braunfels, TX that I love called T Bar M. You may have heard of T Bar M for their incredible kids summer camps, but did you know that you can retreat with them year round? Having spent a year on a camp property, I believe there is something about getting away and being in nature that is good for the soul. Growth is bound to happen when you experience that with other people, be it your family, ministry or business.

If you have a group that needs to retreat, T Bar M is the place to go. T Bar M is a unique property with lots of space, whether it’s a getaway or full on programming and team-building, T Bar M is excited to come alongside of you to accomplish your goals in a Christ-centered environment. Texas may be a quite trip for many of you, but situated between Austin and San Antonio, T Bar M is in close proximity to two airports.

Right now, T Bar M is partnering with Journeywomen to help you retreat well! Visit
tbarm.org/journeywomen and get a free Ebook on the value of retreating, along with 15% off your first retreat experience!

Follow them on Instagram or Facebook


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ep.21 on leading small groups

Jennie Allen

ep. 21 | Leading Small Groups with Jennie Allen

On this episode of the Journeywomen podcast I had the privilege of chatting with Jennie Allen. Jennie is a Bible teacher marked by personal authenticity and vulnerability. She encourages women to go to these same places as they study scripture, wrestle with truth, and more fully live out their short time on this planet.  Jennie and Zac have four children, Connor, Kate, Caroline, and Cooper. She writes Bible studies, authors books, and founded a live event called IF:Gathering designed to gather, equip, and unleash the next generation to live out their purpose. She’s a mom, a wife, and most of all--totally obsessed with following Jesus and imparting that passion to other women, which is exactly what we talked about today.

Jennie really encouraged me to pursue real relationships with the goal of making disciples. My sincere hope is that this podcast will serve as a springboard for conversations within the context of your real-life community, like your own small groups, the women at your church, your co-workers, the girls in your dorm room,  or with mamas at the park. I’m praying that intentional conversations centered around the Word of God will challenge and deepen your faith while strengthening your relationships with your mentors and disciples. Come share how you’re growing with us on Instagram and Facebook! Looking forward to seeing you guys here next Monday.

  1. For those who aren’t familiar with your work, can you tell us a little about who you are and what you do?

  2. I asked you to come on the show to discuss leading small groups because despite standing on stage and speaking for thousands of women, I can tell from your books and from the content you put out that gathering small groups of women around the Word of God is a passion of yours. I’d love to hear where this originated for you: who taught you this process and where it started? What was the first Bible study that you led? What does this look like for you in this season?

  3. What’s the point of small group study? Can we talk a little bit about the heart behind women gathering together to study the Word of God?

  4. What are some key principles for leading a small group study? What is your encouragement to someone who might feel inadequate when it comes to leadership?

  5. Practically, what is the format of your studies? Why do you do that the way that you do? What are some common pitfalls small groups fall into?

  6. As leaders, how can we stay focused on seeking God and the souls of men over building our small group or our ministry? How do you keep things simple when our culture wants to build numbers and platforms?

  7. What do you do with positive feedback in your role as a leader? How do you respond to that? What would you suggest we do when we feel ourselves becoming too puffed up or too concerned with the approval of man?

  8. Knowing what you know now, what would you encourage the Bible teacher Jennie when you were 20 years old? What would you have told Bible teacher Jennie when you had a 3 year old in the house?

  9. How do you continue to flourish — especially when you’re busy and when your ministry is flourishing/demanding?

 

3 Questions I Ask Every Guest

  1. What 3 resources would you recommend for someone wanting to develop as a disciple or as a mentor?
  2. What are 3 of your simple joys?
  3. Who has had the biggest influence on your own journey with Jesus?

 

Note Worthy Quotes

“I’m going to make disciples and I’m going to use my gifts to teach people around me. That’s what I love doing.”

 “Make disciples who make disciples. That is clear. That is the call.”

“The call on our lives is that we all go make disciples. That can be one person that can be five people that can be twenty people, but honestly it’s probably going to be a smaller group. Even those that lead big Bible studies I encourage to break into smaller groups.”

“It is easier to publish a book than it is to invite your neighbors to a Bible study. I don’t know why that is, but it’s true. It is easier to do big things than small things. The courage to interact with the people closest to us and to take a risk is difficult.”

“You are ahead of somebody in your life… there is somebody below you that is in some way behind you and you have something to give to them.”  

“Recognize that you need help. You need people pouring into you… Seek out being discipled and seek out being under the authority of the local church and then we give our lives away.”

“It doesn’t matter if you have a leadership gift. It doesn’t matter if you have a teaching gift. You were called to invest your life into others.”

“The main thing of being a believer and following Jesus is to love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength and to love people like it-- the Great Commandment--and the Great Commission--to make disciples of all the earth. What that looked like was right in front of you, how Jesus did it, a handful of people and them pouring into a handful of people.”

“Someone asked me one time, ‘What is the measuring marker to tell if you’re making a disciple?’ I said, ‘It’s easy. Jesus made it really clear. You make disciples who are making disciples. Once your disciple is making disciples then you’ve done good work and made an effective disciple.’”

“No matter what else I do and how gifted I am to be able to do what I’m doing, there is nothing more rewarding than a living room full of girls or a coffee date with a girl, giving her the Word of God.”

“As women grow in their understanding of the Word and grow in their mission to make disciples a lot of these thing snap into place. A lot of growth happens personally… When we’re doing what he made us to do to serve and make disciples in the church things start happening that are beyond that you could do yourself.”

“We are at war for our mind and our affections… It’s turned into a full on assault if you just want to get a quiet time. It’s not even easy to do that anymore. The number of tethers being thrown at you on a given morning is ridiculous. It’s good to recognize that it’s a real war and we have an issue if we don’t learn to fight back.”

“There’s a real sobriety in my life that this is short and I’m in it for the glory of God.” 

“If you’re really going to go fight for the glory of God and the good of people you’re not signing up for an ego and you’re not signing up for an easy life. You’re signing up to go to war with darkness and trying to set captives free.”

“I would have said to her ‘You’re doing good work. Don’t think there is something bigger around the corner. You’re doing it right now. You’re doing the big thing.’ I think I would have felt more settled if I could have believed that.” 

“There is nobility and honor in faithfulness. Faithfulness can look like diaper changes, meeting with a girl for coffee, or working a really hard job to provide for your family. It can look like a lot of different things, but I think we tend to be really hard on ourselves when the truth is we’re all probably really doing the best with what we’ve been given.”

“This is stewardship before God. If we let our view of our reputation of ourself. If we let our view of humility be that we should bury something because God should be pleased, we have a passage in Scripture (in the parable of the talents) that should terrify you and haunt you.”

“I think we are afraid of success. We’re afraid of putting ourselves out there and winning. A lot of women feel more comfortable in failure than they do in success.”  

“We underestimate people’s craving for the eternal. It is built in. Man was created with eternity written into their hearts.”

 

Jennie's Resources

The Master Plan of Evangelism

Proven - Bible Study Book 

IF:Equip

Current Church History Study

IF:Gathering

IF:Gathering Shoppe

IF:Table

 

Jennie's Simple Joys

Discovering new things

Being outdoors

People

 

Connect with Jennie


SPONSORSHIP DETAILS

Today's episode of the Journeywomen Podcast is sponsored by Because I'm His.  

Diana Carter founded Because I'm His in 2016 in the midst of a paralyzing season of anxiety and panic. What started as means of survival in her journal eventually turned into an Instagram account she used to process a season of hopelessness. The only way to silence the lies attacking her identity was to speak back to them with the truth of who she was in Christ.

And so, Because I'm His was born.

Because I’m His is a community of women rooted in their Biblical identities and walking in the fullness of that reality. Through daily devotions, vulnerable storytelling and biblical truths, Because I’m His exists to equip women to know their true identities and walk in the fullness of that reality.

Follow @becauseimhis on Instagram and visit their website at becauseimhis.com.


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ep. 20 | Motherhood with Heather MacFadyen

On this episode of the Journeywomen podcast I had the privilege of chatting with Heather MacFadyen of the God Centered Mom Podcast on the topic of motherhood. Heather and I talked all things mothering, from prioritizing time in the Word to Gospel-centered encouragement for tired mamas like myself. This episode is truth-filled, rich, and I probably laughed a little too much.

Heather has been married since the turn of the century which she says sounds more impressive than it is--though I personally beg to differ. She is the mother of four young boys (born exactly, to the day, within 6 1/2 years . . . just like she’d always planned). Heather hosts a weekly podcast (The God Centered Mom Podcast) interviewing fellow journeyers on the topic of motherhood. On social media she chronicles the colorful chaos of "relentlessly replacing ‘me’ with ‘He’" — sharing the daily struggle of remaining God-centered while mothering four wild-at-heart, energetic, and often stubborn boys. Her heart is for moms to know God's great delight over them. How He sees the unseen eternal work they do every day. And to know they “Don’t Mom Alone."

  1. How do you define motherhood?
  2. Can you help us set a Biblical foundation for motherhood? What does Scripture say about it?
  3. How does motherhood relate to the Gospel? Practically, how can we put the Gospel on display as mothers?
  4. What about when we fail? How should we respond? And what encouragement do we have to press forward in making little disciples?
  5. How can we connect with and love mothers who parent differently than we do?
  6. What are some lies we might find ourselves particularly subjected to as mothers? What are truths to hold onto to combat those lies?
  7. What are some other practical ways to get into the Word as a mom?
  8. How about being in community and serving in the church (especially for the tired mama)?
  9. Do you have any encouragement for the mama who feels overwhelmed by her motherly calling?
  10. What are some things you do to help you recharge as a mom?

 

3 Questions I Ask Every Guest

  1. What 3 resources would you recommend for motherhood?

  2. What are 3 of your simple joys?

  3. Who has had the biggest influence on your own journey with Jesus?

 

Note Worthy Quotes

“Motherhood feels unique and special in that it’s one role in which you get to intimately love another human soul in a kind of selfless service, tangible grace, moment to moment discipleship. If you’ve ever served in any ministry it’s the one ministry where they’re seeing you in your worst and best place, and you get to minister to them in their hardest and best moments. It’s such an interweaving of lives even beyond your spouse because they’re part of you. Or, through adoption, it’s hard too. You get to see a perfect reflection of God’s love and how we are grafted into the kingdom because of Jesus.”  

“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations.” Jeremiah 1:5

“Each of our children are on their own journeys. To bubble wrap them and protect them is to sabotage that God has them on some journey… we can’t forget that God will use [hard things] for his glory. In trying to protect them we might sabotage what God is trying to do in their lives.”

“Sin is choosing my way over God’s way.”

“The Gospel is that Jesus came, God made flesh, and he took the penalty for all our sin. It doesn’t mean that we’ll never sin again, it just means that when God sees me he sees Jesus. I have to remember that all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. I’m on the same side as my kids. We both need Jesus. I cannot come at it from the other side.”

“God tells us that we all need help. I’m so thankful he sent Jesus. I’m so thankful we aren’t able to get out of this mess. All we need to do is ask Jesus to help us out of this mess… We can say, ‘Lord, help me.’”

“There’s confession and then there’s repentance. If you’re in a season where you’re constantly confessing the same thing to your kids, they will constantly forgive you, but at some point there might be a deeper issue that you need to work with God to really repent, which means to turn 180 degrees.”  

“It’s amazing how often God compares his relationship with Israel to a mom. Again, outside of how the child came about, or outside of what the mom is doing for a job, he talks about the nursing mother and how can she forget her nursing child? He will not forget Israel. In Isaiah 66 as a mother comforts you, so shall you be comforted. I’m seeing comfort and compassion. In Proverbs it says don’t forget your mother’s teaching--we have that role--teaching. And then in Timothy we see his faith coming from his mother and his grandmother. We have this opportunity to be compassionate, comforting, teaching, faith-building women to whatever children God has placed into our lives and whatever souls he has handed us for that time. If there is anything getting in the way of that, that’s where we need to spend some time with God and in community talk through why that is. What hurts am I holding onto from my past? What lies are circling around in my head that are causing me to consistently struggle with x, y, or z?”  

“Think about a dominant feeling that you have. Journal out three or four thoughts you remember having. Ask the Lord where this is coming from and what happens as a result of these feelings. Write all of those things down and then ask God, ‘What is true?’”

“Spend some time with God doing an analysis of your feelings, thoughts, and what you do as a result, is a good place to start.”

“God, show me what you want me to know about you in this situation where I’m feeling like I’m not enough. Instead of feeling like you didn’t make me right or like I just can’t get it together, show me actually what’s true about YOU God instead of making it about ME not getting it together.”

Tips for getting in the Word as a mom:

  1. Leave the Bible out on the counter.

  2. Keep a separate journal of impactful verses.

  3. Practice waking before your kids wake.

“Calling is what all of us have been given to go into the world and make disciples.  Assignment is where we’re doing that.” -Kat Armstrong

 “If my eyes are towards Christ and I’m lifting my eyes to him, then my kids are going to watch what I do more than they do what I say. They’re going to watch and do what I do more than they do what I tell them to do. If my eyes are constantly on them, that’s overwhelming. But it’s not overwhelming to turn to Christ and say, ‘Help me get my relationship right with you,’ and for your children to come alongside you in that.”

 

Heather's Resources

Gospel-Centered Mom

Kat Lee Hello Mornings

Ivory Soap in Microwave Experiment

Parenting by Paul David Tripp

REVING the Word, Revelation Wellness Podcast Episodes

Steps into God's Grace by Lynn Hoffmann

 

Heather's Simple Joys

Old episodes of Friends the TV Show

Saturday morning walks with her husband

Good girl time

 

Connect with Heather


SPONSORSHIP DETAILS

Today's episode of the Journeywomen Podcast is sponsored by Sleepy Cues.  

Jenn & Robin, the founders of Sleepy Cues, began the company after experiencing challenging seasons of sleep with their own families. They realized this struggle was anything but uncommon to new moms & dads. Individually they became immersed in all things infant and child sleep and started helping their friends and their own children establish healthy sleep rhythms. A few years later,  Sleepy Cues was birthed to serve a wider audience. Jenn & Robin come alongside families to establish healthy sleep rhythms for the whole family.  They believe understanding your baby or child and confidently responding to their needs is foundational to family health.  Sleepy Cues offers four different packages including a written proposal with their suggestions, real time text messaging or a video conference call.  You can find out more about them at sleepycues.com or follow them on Instagram at @sleepycues.  And, if you mention the Journeywomen Podcast, you will get an extra day of real time text messaging added to your package for FREE (a $10 value).

 


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